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Thanks for all the advice. As it happens I'm only moving it a few inches, but to a deeper space and a bit more sun (shade from a nearby bush means a few inches matter). I'll do my best to keep the rootball intact, the roots were very wide originally.
Will wait to fertilize till it comes back and try not to worry ; )
Btw Im in Northern CA, and have a feeling all 3 new roses are a bit too high. I hope the others could be fine with some soil piled up to the bud union.
Thanks!
It helps to move them towards evening or in cloudy weather which you probably wouldn't have now. Many people will provide shade while the rose recovers.That could be as simple as a lawn chair. Or shade cloth over a plant support. A product such as wilt proof works well.
I am a huge fan of Munstead Wood roses. I have a small row of them and couldn't be happier. Very fragrant. The color is pretty consistent although it tends to be darker at the end of the summer. They are susceptible to black spot, but I am not the most diligent person when it comes to spraying. It holds up well when it rains here in CT. 
Mustbnuts...I love your roses. How beautiful. You must have a lovely garden.
I'm going today to look at roses weather permitting. I'm hoping it doesn't rain all weekend so I can.plant on Monday. I work all weekend so that's a no go. I definitely want to try and pot roses as well. Alongside my walkway by my entrance. All sun most of the day. At least 6 hours.
I was a bit intimidated but you've all been so helpful and kind. I will be scouring the net for information and YouTube for how to's lol.
I really want a pretty garden!
Elizabeth, they may not be available locally, but take a look at the TAMU list of Earth-Kind Roses. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/earthkindroses/cultivars/
Out of 250 carefree roses, 150-170 of them are Knock Out roses, I started with 100 of them, then added more for their fast repeat colors( they have 5 different colors). I also have about 250 old garden roses, ramblers, some of them I purchsed as rose bands, still small. I have never got infected from rose thorns, I live in a house hugged by thousands of blooms and also thousands of thorns. :-) I have been taking care of roses for about 8 years. I love them all. It's just people's taste in food, cars and scooter, motorcycles. I don't like Harleys, there are so many of them and everywhere, but I love Knock outs they are everywhere too, I grow them for their fast repeat colors. So far they're the fastest rebloomers in my garden. I will add more old garden roses and more other kind of carefree roses this year. Happy gardening everyone! :-) Cheers
Every thing I've read so far has this rose being quite large down south. Paul Zimmermon has a photo on line of the one he lost to rrv. It looked to be about 6'h x8 or 10' wide. Wish Help Me Find had comments from everyone on growth and other goodies about their roses. My photos on aren't that good on HMF but I now add a comment about growth and health in my garden. Hoping it may help someone decide if they wish to plant a variety.
For what's worth Paul said he has had about a 50% survival rate on rrv infections when he can catches it early while the infections is showing high up on one cane by removing the cane. This is good to hear and also how I saved one rose.
subk3 thanks for the Ivors Rose suggestion.
Thanks every one for your help it is appreciated.
Your Sharifa is beautiful! It sounds like Sharifa would be more compatible with LEH. I read that LEH also gets a little resentment in super hot weather and may slow down growth in the heat of summer. So the Sharifa and LEH could prob go into some afternoon shade here together.
I think I will put PAoK in full sun. I just need to figure out what else to plant by her now lol. I have them all in pots for now but am trying to figure out where to put the flower beds and roses according to their size and needs. I have lots of room and sun/shade possibilities so I want to get this as 'right' as possible the first time so I won't have to move stuff around later. I have more shade/dappled sun than straight sun areas close to the house but I do have a few areas of full sun. I have some super sunny areas but they are way out by the street (an acre away) so I want to plant closer to the house first so we can enjoy them. Too many huge oak and pine trees here (plus all their roots) grrr.
Thanks, all! I did pull it back far, and it's a good thing I did. It was keeping things quite moist and it's been downright warm since that last cold night.
I think next year I'll probably put it on right before the super-cold nights and pull it back after them, just to be safe. I didn't put it on until we were solidly into winter, but the really bad nights were so few that I should probably not leave it on as many weeks as I did.
So far, I don't have more canker showing than normal, so that part is good!
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize she was so new. I think I will wait a bit to get her since I just got Julia Child. Jacqueline I do have a rose society about 35 miles away but they meet at night and I'd have to drive highway and I just don't drive highway at night anymore if I don't have to. I'll keep watching the site to see if anyone is posting updates.
Maybe you guys need to get a wolf/hybrid dog to patrol your yards. LOL
No, actually, that would be terrible to have to worry about deer damage. I've seen a squirrel or two move into the neighbourhood for the first time. I've read here that they like to take rose buds. Even if that happens, they can't be as bad as deer.
Carol
I have Solero V. & I like the color, a clear yellow but as nippstress says, "it fades". It is an ADR rose but last year it had a touch of BS in my garden but it seems to resist BS because the rose next to it had BS much worse as well as several other roses in my garden. The one habit it has that doesn't please me is that the bush tends to sprawl & open up in the center.
Solero Vigorosa is nice with good color and disease resistance, but it is still quite small (read "short") here. We'll see how it matures in the next two years.
Purple Rain may be moving out of my garden. Yes, it is healthy and a good bloomer but the color is not as it was described at all...and I do not like it one bit. The flowers are small clusters of a very odd shade of pink. Bleah! I would say that unless you've seen it in person and just adore it, don't waste your money experimenting on it.
Here it is, half-leafed out after a prune this year down to 3x3. Perhaps this shows the structure for you. As usual, blooming already. It would look fab for you underplanted with Geranium 'Rozanne'.
Keep in mind I never did anything but deadhead the first 5 years.
I had to look up whether my favorite 'heavy' insecticide kills leafhoppers, and it does. It's spinosad, so it's less toxic than Sevin. OTOH, it's still deadly to bees when wet, so make sure to spray only when the bees are in for the night. After it dries, it doesn't kill the bees! Don't spray it directly on beneficials and it won't kill them either (unless any chew leaves).
I do use Sevin for true bugs that really need killing, though. Spinosad isn't good on most of them, unfortunately.
My goodness! It was my first time watching a motorcycle race, I got goosebumps the whole time! I have never seen any bikes going that fast, more than 200mph at least. I hope all the riders dropped their bikes in the turns were ok, still alive, one of them went down the hill.....if I knew them I'd tell them "don't do it" many many times. I like their riding gears.
That's a beautiful island, it would be lovely to ride around (45-60mph), pack a picnic lunch...... there are not many scooters here, I saw less than 10 scooters on the road in my town last summer, so I ride with motorcycles. :-) Ride safe!
Cheers,
Summer
It looks like Rosa Indica Major to me. Its Chinese name was something sounding like Fun Juan Lo (if you pronounce the J as 'Zh'). This rose was 'discovered' and brought over from China to the West in the early part of the 19th Century. It has had many names and its precise botanic origin is unclear. Being very tough and resilient to heat and drought - though not to cold - and being very easy to root, it has been much used as an understock in warm areas such as South Australia and (apparently) California. It is somewhat prone to mildew, but this doesn't seem to affect overall health if left untreated. It often swamps and then survives the grafted rose, so is a common sight in old neglected gardens here.
It blooms early in spring, with those lovely airy puffballs of ivory irregularly suffused or blotched with pale carmine pink, borne on those similarly airy, gracefully arching canes, for a few weeks only each year. It has been noted that if it were a repeat bloomer, it might rank among the great shrub roses. The scent, to my nose, was only faint.
Whether you want to keep it, and how you want to grow it, is pretty much up to you. I have seen it looking very pretty grown up and over a cottage garden arch. I love its natural fountain shape, however it may produce larger flowers if kept trimmed back. Or you could just take out the oldest, thickest canes at the base each year, immediately after flowering as Jeri and others have said (it doesn't usually set hips). This would keep it a bit smaller without losing its natural graceful shape. Espaliering it against the fence to keep it more 2-dimensional, would be very feasible, maybe still letting it keep its natural curves. If you have room to plant other things in front of it, it should make a nice glossy green background for most of the year, with its annual few weeks of glory to look forward to each spring.
I took mine out (it was here - a rootstock escape - when I bought this house) and I do still miss it...
Comtesse :¬)
Burlingarden - Congratulations! I agree that it is probably 'Rosa Indica Major', a rose which was found in China prior to 1811. If you go to the web site Help Me Find/roses, you will see many pictures of it. Also, you will see that it has 8-10 different names. This happens when roses are so nice & popular that they get re-named all over the many places where they grow. Comtessedelacouche and others above give good advice about pruning it, GENTLY or not at all, and only after it finishes blooming. Tying it up to your fence or on some sort of trellis is also a good idea. Such a beautiful rose!
Jackie