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Thanks for the fertilizer tip Kippy.
Appreciate the creative suggestions. I think Alfalfa would fit aesthetically and it is a Mediterranean native, but I also agree with fduk that it would be competitive. As a crop it is about 2' tall in Pennsylvania, which would be a bit too tall but I don't know if there are short varieties. Dry gardeners in soCal and South Australia who want to use alfalfa may want to get the Dormancy 9 varieties which are very winter-active and would go dormant in summer. Maybe thereby mildew could be avoided because of the seasonal differences from conventional alfalfa. Don't know.
I feel fairly confident in saying it is NOT Will2000. I don't know enough about the original to say--but I still think it looks more and more like Dark Lady.
You might send the pics to David Austin and see if they can tell which is which. If you do that, definitely let us know the answer.
Kate
Confusion. Accd to HMF there are TWO roses named 'Baby Romantica'. One is a miniature, and one is a climber! It looks to me as if the miniature would do fine in a pot (although it was MUCH bigger than what I would call a miniature in the pictures), as long as it was a BIG pot. I would never put a climber in a pot.
There are, of course dozens of "Romantica" roses also - they are much bigger, more shrubs or HTs, and I would get recommendations for them individually - I'm sure they do not all have identical growth habits, just as Austins do not.
Jackie
I grew John Cabot in Fort McMurray - zone 2. We moved before after it survived the winter. I remember putting some leaves over it so it would survive the winter. It was okay - but the canes were stiff, and I wanted a climbing rose with more limber canes.
Wow - Quadra is beautiful. The canes look nice and flexible too. Hmmmm.
Carol
Today I received my bare root order from Edmunds. 14 roses all with three or more huge canes. If they came from Edmunds, e-mail your concerns to them. They respond very quickly. As fare as 2 canes per bush go, I'd be scratching my head. Not saying they won't grow or bloom. They should be OK and probably put out new canes this year.
According to the American Association of Nurserymen:
Grade 1
Hybrid Teas and Grandifloras must have three or more strong canes, two of which are at least 18 in. (45 cm) long. The canes should be well-spaced around the graft.
Floribundas meet the same standards, but the canes need only be 15 in. (38 cm) long.
Polyanthas must have four or more canes at least 12 in. (30 cm) long.
Climbers and ramblers must have three or more canes 24 in. (60 cm) long.
Note: "Strong canes" is not defined, but is generally accepted to mean canes which have attained their mature size in diameter. As a minimum, at least one cane must be at least 1/2 in. (12 mm) in diameter.
Grade 1 1/2
Hybrid Teas and Grandifloras must have two or more canes at least 15 in. (38 cm) long.
Floribundas must have two or more canes 14 in. (35 cm) long.
Climbers must have two or more canes 18 in. (45 cm) long.
Note: Polyanthas which do not meet Grade 1 standards are not graded.
Grade 2
All classes must have two or more canes 12 in. (30 cm) long.
Assuming that yours are modern hybrid tea roses, if they were advertized as Grade #1, then your roses should have had at least three strong canes. Check the catalog/website to make sure how they were labelled, then I'd contact the vendor. IF any of your new arrivals are antique/older/species, then most of them are not graded by the same criteria, since there is so much natural variation of vigor among them.
John
I do a lot of the things mentioned here - I take the same path through my garden, I save pictures quickly with the name in the subject line (though I don't always get to this), I take pictures of tags. I also have extensive spreadsheets listing all the plants I grow with many details about taxonomy and care. Like you, Beth, my family seems less than appreciative of the inherent interest of such records! :)
Pat, taking a photo of a neighbouring plant is inspired! I'm definitely going to copy that idea.
Karen
I, too, sometimes use location in yard and some sequence of my most of the time routine "walk thru." The problem is that sometimes I take pictures of roses in a vase. Months later, I've found that LET FREEDOM RING, VETERAN'S HONOR, and GRANDE AMORE are hard for me to distinguish when placed in a vase. If I can see the stems and leaves that helps. I do plan on devising a better plan on labeling the roses.
Mine came from Palatine so it is on multiflora. Check RU for own root. This rose has a slight fragrance to me. I have never had blackspot or thrips on it. It grows large 5 ft by 3 ft. Never without a bloom. I use Rose tone or Holly tone and I spray with Monty`s Joy Juice for foliar feed. Hope you order one...I believe it will bring you joy! Lesley
have e-mailed RU and asked to notify me when one is available. Thanks. Pembroke