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You could talk to Otto & Sons roses (who supply many nurseries and landscapers in SoCal).
I know they have carried them in the past.
Jeri
Here is a link that might be useful: Otto & Sons Nursery, Fillmore, CA

OMG, Susan- that is a beautiful photo. I'll gladly wait a few years if my GC would look like that.
So I didn't have a chance to take any photos over the weekend, but as I was cleaning up after lunch today, I looked out my kitchen window and thought what a pretty view it was - and very representative of my mix of shrubs, roses, daylilies and other perrenials. It was taken through the screen, so please forgive the bit of fuzzyness.

And straight on as the fairy is looking, the tall canes are Evelyn. Never thought to see her so tall! If she manages to open any blooms at the ends of those canes before frost, I won't have to bend over to take a sniff of her delightful perfume, will I? ;-)

I would say that this rose bush is about 4 feet tall. There is a basic base of thick brown old canes, from which radiate several new canes. Most of the new canes are thin and weak. Under the burden of several blossoms, they leaned low toward the ground. Those are not canes that should remain, in my opinion. There are about 2 decently strong canes that grew from the old brown base canes.

This will be my first time at overwintering roots rose canes. My plan is to put the small pots they're in into a much larger pot so that most of the cane is covered by soil. Then I'm going to cover with blankets. I'm also going to water once/month after December. Make sure you water them really, really well before they go into the garage.
Carol

Ok thanks mad_gallica, Seil, & Carol for the info!
I'll let you know if they make it through the winter.
I have a Mister Lincoln in a container I have to try and overwinter... We have no garage so not sure of my plan of attack yet...

Someone asked why don't you use Sevin?
Maybe the answer can be found in this article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbaryl
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

Besides that Blaze is really only a once bloomer. That means it will only bloom one time in the spring and not again until the next spring. Golden Showers is a repeat bloomer so it should bloom in flushes all season. That's going to unbalance the whole thing. I think your idea is good and should work but you need to rethink which roses to use.

I think that would look lovely!
I would consider something without thorns if you aren't completely set on those! There are lots of really pretty thornless roses.
Are you familiar with helpmefind.com? If you go there and go to advance search, you can select habit - thornless and see all the thornless roses. Regardless it's a super helpful website to have and you can stare at all the pretty roses this winter!
I don't grow it but zephirine Drouhin is a really popular thornless climber that is pretty vigorous and should do well in your zone.
Good luck & take lots of pictures! :o)
Michaela
Here is a link that might be useful: Zephirin Info

I've never seen Iceberg locally with flowers and leaves at the same time. Heritage isn't much better. It's a nice rose if sprayed, but I certainly couldn't call it a good no spray rose.
BTW, I've never seen a Heritage flower look like that one.

You mention finding Queen of Sweden and Scepter'd Isle as possible replacements. The Queen is good on BS resistance and has beautiful blooms, but it grows about 5-6 feet tall and is not a quick or heavy re-bloomer at all.
As for Scepter'd Isle, it will have some BS problems and its blooms do not last very long, although it is pretty good on re-bloom. Can't imagine it as a hedge-like rose--it is more slender and arching.
As for your current bushes, just pick off the yellow leaves and it should look considerably better.
Kate


We found that roses ON multiflora, and roses whose makeup was largely multiflora, struggled with chlorosis here.
It's like saying: "It hurts when I slap myself in the face."
The answer to that problem is to stop slapping yourself in the face.
Just so, we no longer plant roses ON multiflora, or roses that are largely of multiflora breeding. We're happier, and so are the roses we're not torturing. :-)
Jeri

I am sorry to hear this Jimmy. Yours is one of the chief complaints that many people have. Whether we force ourselves to maintain a professional attitude and do our best work, whether we fill out harassment forms, or report a person depends on too many factors.
I hope you are able to work it out.
Sammy


Thank you, Madri for that very complete explanation. Maybe I will try one or two for fall planting which I know are sure to be hardy. The spinossima 'Falkland' looks interesting. Palatine says it does repeat, HMF says no repeat. Maybe there is an occasional late bloom.
Kentucky Rose, sorry about the delayed reply to your question. I am not currently able to photograph, a matter of learning how to use a new camera--old dogs and new tech, you know. I bought NDM from eurodesert the summer it closed. I concentrated on roses of Matthias Tantau, Jr., those had to be shipped across the country in hot summer. Cliff and his helpers did a marvelous job of packing the roses, but he was shipping out of a local PO, and I rather suspect the personnel there had not counted on having to work very hard over the hot summer. So, some did not survive, but my NDM has survived the trip across country and cold winters here. The "floribunda" which I planted next to it turned out to be the rambler 'Dupontii'--lovely rose which I am happy to have--so NDM was shaded but still bloomed. I moved it last spring to what turned out to be another shaded spot, where it is blooming now despite competition from morning glories and a cobea vine. My plant is grafted, probably onto R. laxa, but I imagine a plant on multiflora would do as well. In my yard, NDM has everything I like in a rose except fragrance. I don't understand why it fell out of commerce in North America.
I have been ordering from Palatine for several years. I am as impressed as you by their excellent plants.




This is where the new rose will be going, now that the nandina infestation and about 100 asiatic lilies have been removed (hopefully we got them all).
seil/annt: I think that may rule out the Jeanne Lajoie; keeping it tamed to a reasonable size looks like it'll require more time and energy than I have right now.
hoovb: The outer ring of that bed is Iris germanica 'New Dawn' so I'd like something that's not the same color. Lunar Mist is pretty though... Might recommend it to my mother, who collects yellow roses.
michaelg: I may take another look at the Aloha, since the color is similar to the Colette; I like repeat bloomers, and I'll need a focal point once the iris fade at the end of their season.
Thanks to everyone that commented.


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Good luck.
As long as he addresses the five different black spot races that are active in different parts of the US, siting of the roses and soil fertility and, of course, climate he may have something new to add to the discussion.
Smiles,
Lyn