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I feel fairly confident in saying it is NOT Will2000. I don't know enough about the original to say--but I still think it looks more and more like Dark Lady.
You might send the pics to David Austin and see if they can tell which is which. If you do that, definitely let us know the answer.
Kate
Confusion. Accd to HMF there are TWO roses named 'Baby Romantica'. One is a miniature, and one is a climber! It looks to me as if the miniature would do fine in a pot (although it was MUCH bigger than what I would call a miniature in the pictures), as long as it was a BIG pot. I would never put a climber in a pot.
There are, of course dozens of "Romantica" roses also - they are much bigger, more shrubs or HTs, and I would get recommendations for them individually - I'm sure they do not all have identical growth habits, just as Austins do not.
Jackie
I grew John Cabot in Fort McMurray - zone 2. We moved before after it survived the winter. I remember putting some leaves over it so it would survive the winter. It was okay - but the canes were stiff, and I wanted a climbing rose with more limber canes.
Wow - Quadra is beautiful. The canes look nice and flexible too. Hmmmm.
Carol
Today I received my bare root order from Edmunds. 14 roses all with three or more huge canes. If they came from Edmunds, e-mail your concerns to them. They respond very quickly. As fare as 2 canes per bush go, I'd be scratching my head. Not saying they won't grow or bloom. They should be OK and probably put out new canes this year.
According to the American Association of Nurserymen:
Grade 1
Hybrid Teas and Grandifloras must have three or more strong canes, two of which are at least 18 in. (45 cm) long. The canes should be well-spaced around the graft.
Floribundas meet the same standards, but the canes need only be 15 in. (38 cm) long.
Polyanthas must have four or more canes at least 12 in. (30 cm) long.
Climbers and ramblers must have three or more canes 24 in. (60 cm) long.
Note: "Strong canes" is not defined, but is generally accepted to mean canes which have attained their mature size in diameter. As a minimum, at least one cane must be at least 1/2 in. (12 mm) in diameter.
Grade 1 1/2
Hybrid Teas and Grandifloras must have two or more canes at least 15 in. (38 cm) long.
Floribundas must have two or more canes 14 in. (35 cm) long.
Climbers must have two or more canes 18 in. (45 cm) long.
Note: Polyanthas which do not meet Grade 1 standards are not graded.
Grade 2
All classes must have two or more canes 12 in. (30 cm) long.
Assuming that yours are modern hybrid tea roses, if they were advertized as Grade #1, then your roses should have had at least three strong canes. Check the catalog/website to make sure how they were labelled, then I'd contact the vendor. IF any of your new arrivals are antique/older/species, then most of them are not graded by the same criteria, since there is so much natural variation of vigor among them.
John
I do a lot of the things mentioned here - I take the same path through my garden, I save pictures quickly with the name in the subject line (though I don't always get to this), I take pictures of tags. I also have extensive spreadsheets listing all the plants I grow with many details about taxonomy and care. Like you, Beth, my family seems less than appreciative of the inherent interest of such records! :)
Pat, taking a photo of a neighbouring plant is inspired! I'm definitely going to copy that idea.
Karen
I, too, sometimes use location in yard and some sequence of my most of the time routine "walk thru." The problem is that sometimes I take pictures of roses in a vase. Months later, I've found that LET FREEDOM RING, VETERAN'S HONOR, and GRANDE AMORE are hard for me to distinguish when placed in a vase. If I can see the stems and leaves that helps. I do plan on devising a better plan on labeling the roses.
Karen, it is killing my pocketbook as well ! I should be setting aside money for mulch and to pay someone for a little help clearing my new beds. And I order in increments of four because for some reason I feel like that makes the shipping worth it ! I have one order to place with brushwood for some honeysuckle and Clematis , and I swear that's it . Unless someone has a sale ! :)
I received La France from them about ten days ago and it's already in the ground since our winters are so mild. It's already sprouting new little shoots and leaves. Fortunately it rained shortly after it was planted and I've mulched it well so it should take off soon. I hope yours do too. The second rose you show does seem a little on the skimpy side, but I think with a little time it also should do well. If you don't see new growth after some time and with good care, you can always contact the seller and have your money returned.
..with roses it seems, it often takes more than two to tango... but a couple of lineages I like very much would be these...
...if you like an old fashioned type, albeit rather thorny all the way through..
'Baronne Prevost' >> 'Comte de Chambord' >>'Gertrude Jekyll'...
...for a more modern floribunda look..
'New Dawn'/'Silver Jubilee' both great roses >> bred the equally brilliant pink shrub 'Armada'...which combined with one of the great hybrid musks 'Cornelia' produced >> 'Octavia Hill'.... a really very good modern rose...
Depends on what roses you are growing. Modern roses like HTs like a lot of chemical food. Once bloomers prefer something like an annual dose of compost. Species roses don't get fed at all.
A gal I used to work with never fertilized her roses and brought in gorgeous bouquets all summer long. Go figure. I think roses are remarkably tolerant of many conditions. Jackie, I am in a similar climate to yours. Your method sounds nice and easy--I like it!