22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
This is where the new rose will be going, now that the nandina infestation and about 100 asiatic lilies have been removed (hopefully we got them all).
seil/annt: I think that may rule out the Jeanne Lajoie; keeping it tamed to a reasonable size looks like it'll require more time and energy than I have right now.
hoovb: The outer ring of that bed is Iris germanica 'New Dawn' so I'd like something that's not the same color. Lunar Mist is pretty though... Might recommend it to my mother, who collects yellow roses.
michaelg: I may take another look at the Aloha, since the color is similar to the Colette; I like repeat bloomers, and I'll need a focal point once the iris fade at the end of their season.
Thanks to everyone that commented.
that they paint the castle in DROP DEAD RED colour with STAINLESS STEEL chimneys as per TRADITION. So PRINCE ALBERT and rose hired GYPSY BOY, BISHOP and ROXY to accomplish the task. They started the painting and encountered STORMY WEATHER. They had to stop untill the WHITE CLOUD disappeared and they saw the SUNNY SKY....
It was awhile ago. The discussion was about when to put manure in the soil and the effect on plants. Two people disagreed and it got ugly.
This year, our society had some controversy with the title of our Fall Rose Show. It was originally to be Christmas in Roseland, but that had to be changed because it might 'offend' some people.
Susanne27,
Thank you for the information. I'm wondering whether translation of Canadian zone listings is required in general?
You will see that I'm listed as zone 9 here in Florida, but I also garden in zone 4. So understanding such subtleties is very valuable in terms of evaluating hardiness reports.
Thank you for the explanation and for clarifying your zone listing to what is commonly understood here.
Thank you very much.
Beautiful photo BTW.
Most rugosas will make a spring flush and then only scattered repeat. 'Topaz Jewel' and some others are full repeaters but are not pure rugosas either. Are you letting hips develop after the first flush? If so, that would reduce repeat bloom, and deadheading will help in future years. Also, pH7 is higher than rugosas want. If the foliage is chartreuse rather than deep green, they aren't getting enough iron, and that could reduce productivity. Apply 1/2 cup of sulfur per square yard to acidify the soil--it takes about six months to work.
Henry, the statement about thick red growth by the Marin Master Rosarian appears to refer to herbicides in general rather than RoundUp particularly. Overgrowth symptoms resembling RRD might be caused by 2,4D and similar chemicals.
The Oklahoma State fact sheet on RRD says,"However, excessive thorniness and unusual red pigmentation does not usually occur with glyphosate." Generally, glyphosate injury on other plants causes stunting and yellowing rather than overgrowth.
This is not the last word on the subject, but I would like to see a science-based source indicating that glyphosate causes overgrowth and redness in some roses (or any plants). I guess it's possible that a light dose causes opposite symptoms from a heavy dose.
To further complicate the situation, many men are colorblind.
That deep reddish color that some of us associate with RRD-caused growth....well, my husband is colorblind and he doesn't see that as red at all, just a slightly different green.
And, FWIW, he doesn't see it on a roses from a number of different classes; nor does he see it in photographs (when many, many in audiences do see it.)
Isn't Marin in California?
Susan,
That WAR looks bad to me; it's almost a duplicate of when my Peter Beales version of Parks Yellow Tea Scented China which got sick and then got much sicker faster than any other rose I've seen. I really hate that both sides of your stem broke; the upper side should always be the one to put out lateral growth, the undersides generally don't. Also I really don't like that the new growth is circular (as in one side is growing faster than the other.) If WAR were mine, that cane, all of that cane, would be gone tomorrow. And I'd watch where it was pruned off like a hawk.
On Cornelia, compare the time that reddish growth takes to turn green with any other new growth on that rose. The margins look a little too smooth (which is ok), and the stipules aren't exuberant. I don't like the discoloration on the leaves, but given sunlight, they should normal up.
Ann
I really never hard prune anything any more unless it's damaged and has to come out. When I dead head during the season I just snap the blooms off right below the hip. My roses get TALL by the end of the season but i like them that way. I think the roses are happier when just left to grow as they please instead of me trying to tell them how I want them to grow. And all that cane is stored energy for the plant. In bad winters I do lose it but in good ones they came back much quicker because of all that extra food stored. I tend to think we fuss and prune WAY more than we have to, lol!
I have been playing in the dirt all my life. While it has not saved me from asthma, allergies or, most recently, the tick-born red meat allergy, it has made me wildly happy, kept me grounded, brought me many friends, inspired my creative urges, and expanded my awareness and knowledge on many fronts.
I do wash my hands and face before preparing food and I keep my tetanus shots current. I also try to practice moderation in all things, common sense, and critical thinking applied to all sources of information, from sensational journalism to scientific journals.
The BBC published this article (Aug 28, 2014):
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
I have not treated any RRV diseased roses with hydrogen peroxide nor with aspirin. This is because I have not had any confirmed cases of RRV. "From memory: early on I had a number of "RRV type" infections and I removed the whole plants. This was over several years. At some point I put the dots together. The "apparent" infections were either in the bed that was immediately downhill from the neighbor that had a lawn service or were very close to where I had used a herbicide on newly sprouted poison ivy (many places among my 1000 roses). I changed the bed next to the neighbors to a raised bed and stopped all herbicide use (except corn gluten meal). I have had zero cases since then."
The recommendations are based on results in the scientific literature for plants with other virus infections.
Examples for hydrogen peroxide:
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg0417381111236.html
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/rosesant/msg0518594226728.html
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Example for aspirin:
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg1011110221766.html
See the following Google Scholar search for Aspirin:
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=plant+virus+aspirin&btnG=&as_sdt=136&as_sdtp=
Here is a link that might be useful: link to Google Scholar search
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Wed, Sep 3, 14 at 10:34
Thanks , pretty petals. I will call Linda and ask her if it can be grown as a bush. Appreciate your efforts on this beautiful rose.
I soooooo hope we get enuf folks to call them and ask for Linda and stress how much we want Peach Silk.