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Stunted leaves on this rose, don't know whats going on.
Posted by campv 8b AZ
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Do your neighbors use round up?

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Jim_in_AV

SoCal, in the desert.

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kingcobbtx9b

Leave it alone. Make certain it doesn't dry out. It is establishing its roots. Give it time.

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Need2SeeGreen(10 (SoCal))

Okay, thanks!!! You guys are funny! I feel much better. (I already gave it a fish emulsion but I will stop that. I put in Osmo Plus when I planted...)

Gonna get me a dowel...

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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Karen, it is killing my pocketbook as well ! I should be setting aside money for mulch and to pay someone for a little help clearing my new beds. And I order in increments of four because for some reason I feel like that makes the shipping worth it ! I have one order to place with brushwood for some honeysuckle and Clematis , and I swear that's it . Unless someone has a sale ! :)

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KarenPA_6b

Oh, what are you ordering from Brushwood? I have been eyeing Arabella for awhile. There are so many beautiful clematis. I don't know what to get. I know exactly what you mean about buying more plants to make it worth the shipping because I am very guilty of it.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Look great to me.

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I received La France from them about ten days ago and it's already in the ground since our winters are so mild. It's already sprouting new little shoots and leaves. Fortunately it rained shortly after it was planted and I've mulched it well so it should take off soon. I hope yours do too. The second rose you show does seem a little on the skimpy side, but I think with a little time it also should do well. If you don't see new growth after some time and with good care, you can always contact the seller and have your money returned.

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Marlorena-z8 England-

..with roses it seems, it often takes more than two to tango... but a couple of lineages I like very much would be these...

...if you like an old fashioned type, albeit rather thorny all the way through..

'Baronne Prevost' >> 'Comte de Chambord' >>'Gertrude Jekyll'...

...for a more modern floribunda look..

'New Dawn'/'Silver Jubilee' both great roses >> bred the equally brilliant pink shrub 'Armada'...which combined with one of the great hybrid musks 'Cornelia' produced >> 'Octavia Hill'.... a really very good modern rose...

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Ken (N.E.GA.mts) 7a/b(7a/b)

I need to correct myself. The sport of the florabunda, Livin Easy is Easy Going. NOT Easy Livin.

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seil zone 6b MI

A rose would be gorgeous on that trellis! I have Blaze and it is a once bloomer basically. I get one big flush in the spring that lasts a couple of weeks and then maybe one or two lone blooms here and there the rest of the season. Blaze Improved is supposed to be a repeat bloomer so it should bloom in flushes the whole season. They're both rated to zone 6 and mine winters quite well so it should for you too. For climbers you don't want to cut them way back if you don't have to. Only prune off dead wood and clean up the plant for shape in the spring.

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the_bustopher z6 MO

Pascali, when happy, can have beautiful foliage. It can have very nice show HT form and has done well on show tables in the past. It just typically lacks size compared to other HTs. It is a good arranger's rose and has a long vase life. It is capable of putting on a nice show in the garden.

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kublakan

Thank you for the input. The smallish size has been a bit of my concern. There are plenty of Floribundas with good flower flushes, so I wasn't sure if I should waste my time with this one.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Certainly not close to you but I have several vigorosa's Even up here some can spread more than three feet. They stay at 3' in height. So far Innocencia is the smallest. I do have one Kordes thats a bitty rose. Bought as a balconia it's Little Chap aka (Knirps). It's also an ADR rose and about 18"x 18". I've had it for around 8 years. It blooms non stop all year. Blooms are tiny and deep crimson fading slightly to a pink shade. I find that my Kordes roses get as large here as they do in the south. In some cases perhaps larger.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

They tend to get wide if you don't prune. The year I took those pictures, I didn't get to prune them before they budded out and then I couldn't bear to . They don't get tall, but they can put out long arching canes. If you prune them once a year, they will stay about 3x3

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seil zone 6b MI

The right rose for the right spot is always the best but I know how you feel. I love my HTs and I enjoy exhibiting so I'll continue to grow them. You shouldn't despair yet on them. If you've sunk the grafts below ground even if you have to cut off black sticks to the soil they should still grow back for you. I had to take all my HTs back to nubs last spring and they grew back and bloomed beautifully in time for my June show!

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rosecanadian

Or if you have an insulated garage, trundle them via a dolly in and out of the garage for winter and summer. As long as the pots are big enough it works wonderfully. I'm in zone 3 and I have 50 HTs in the garage right now. They ALL survive. :)

Carol

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jacqueline9CA

No. Actually, according to HMF, Betty Cuthbert is a shrub with "arching habit", which probably does mean it has rambler genes in it. I am not surprised that alyong found it described as a "rambling/shrub". But, It is modern and thus repeat blooming.

Traditionally the term rambler has been used for once blooming roses which tend to have a delicate look, but climb high. I have attached a picture of my vielchenblau - it is a rambler. "Large Flowered Climbers" is a designation given to more robust roses which climb - many of them are climbing sports of HTs. Of course, if just the term "climber" is used, it could mean any rose which climbs.

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alyong

Thank you everyone for the comments & really good advice! It was a lightbulb moment for me! My rambling rose :) That was a cool trick w the photo, sellzone! And Jacqueline your roses are beautiful! Thanks again!

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KarenPA_6b

I soaked my bareroot roses overnight in a clean 32 gallon trash container in declorinated water or rainwater if I have it and plant them the next day or the day after if I ran out of time. The roses seemed to be happy even those I bought late in the season.

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d_boll

I just ordered 12 Julia Child tree roses and was wondering about how to soak them. Should I stay below the graft on the standard or does it matter.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

this is a pretty decent article from colorado state on horticultural oil:
CO state article on horticultural oil

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Kristin(8)

Thanks, looks like the mineral oil used may be ultrafiltered and have things like dewaxing done, so it might be different from cosmetic grade mineral oil.

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steve_gw

Everyone in my area (zone 5) that grew it, lost it over last year's cold winter, so its not very winter hardy (no worries for Hawaii :). Don't believe it is very prolific in the bloom department. Pruning a little on the low side may encourage more basal canes and blooms... Sure has a lovely fragrance, one thing going for it!

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jacqueline9CA

The old hybrid musk Pax grows in my garden in partial shade very well. It is an elegant rose. If you look at it on Help Me Find/roses, there are lots of pictures. Blooms here all Spring and Summer.

Jackie

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rosecanadian

Very pretty, especially against the white fence!!!

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jerijen(Zone 10)

There was a house in the SF Valley that had a 3-Sided hedge of Simplicity. The Good Lord knows how many plants there were, but they were all planted 6-8 inches apart ... which almost no one ever did, but that's how it worked best. That hedge was a traffic stopper. I was heartbroken when both house and hedge were bulldozed to make way for a very mundane apartment building.

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