22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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zack_lau z6 CT

In a cold weather climate with a short growing season, you may need a variety vigorous enough to produce a large percentage of grade 1 plants--otherwise it may not grow fast enough to recover from winter each year. I get one more bloom cycle than Seil, even though we are in the same zone. This allows me to propagate HTs via cuttings despite subzero winters.

From what I've read, smaller plants are often the result of plants getting less water. In my yard, small plants usually result from issues with tree roots and inadequate light.

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ut2nc

Oh this is great information! Thank you for asking this. I Have been wondering this as well.

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seil zone 6b MI

My question is, is your garage insulated but unheated? If so then you could garage it until spring. Put it up on some wood blocks and remember to water it some every month. You can just put a shovel of snow on the top of the pot when you shovel but roses need water over the winter and since it's inside it won't get that naturally.

If it's not insulated then it won't really be much protection. With the past two winters we've had I'm thinking planting would be better. Do it ASAP so it has as much time as possible to settle in before the ground freezes. Bury it deep to protect the crown as much as possible.

Don't winter protect it too soon. You have to wait until it is completely dormant to put any kind of winter protection on it, There are two problems with covering them too soon. The first is that if it's still warm and the little critters haven't made their winter nests they'll find those leaves make a great nesting spot and your rose is a built in food source. I lost a few roses that way one year. The second problem is the purpose of covering is not to keep them warm but to keep them dormant in the spring when the temps are fluctuating a lot. You don't want them to come out of dormancy too soon and then get hit with a late killing frosts. The heavy mulching keeps the soil from thawing out and encouraging the rose to grow before it's time.

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travelightly

Thanks for the detailed response!. Only one wall of our garage is insulated ( adjoining the house ). I'm wondering if that would offer enough protection for it? I'd rather leave planting it till spring ( still too many "moving in chores" to do in the house), but your suggestion to plant it now seems like a safer bet for the rose. I think you solved the mystery of my disappearing rose. I must have caged it too early. At the time, I probably gave myself a pat on the back for being pro-active!

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It's a type of proliferation--just a birth defect.

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seil zone 6b MI

Try over on the Rose Gallery. I know they have several threads that have pictures of whole gardens.

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/rosesgal

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

There was a thread called, "What does your rose garden look like"?

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seil zone 6b MI

A touching story and a generous donation.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Yellow leaves can be caused by too much water or too little water--or by age.

Some of the brown spots on your leaves would lead me to wonder if you over-fertilized (too much nitrogen).

For now, just go pluck off all the unattractive leaves and throw them away. You'll be surprised how good your rose looks after you do that basic housekeeping.

Kate

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Sam is right. Bt is safe and it works.

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summersrhythm_z6a

....,,,but it's hard to spray a tall tree. Will Bayer's Advanced 12 month Tree & Shrub Insect Control work for tent worms? I use that for my ash trees, we have emerald borer problem in the area, it saved all my ash trees.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

A picture if you can it does sound like herbicide damage or possible rrd.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes, Roundup damage often appears as stringy, feathery growth.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Apparently they are compatible.

http://epubs.icar.org.in/ejournal/index.php/IPPJ/article/view/29989

When you tank mix, don't double the water.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Going back over the old messages I'm not even finding info on it. So, I'll put it in some soil and see how it does. Next spring I'll see what kind of rose she really is. If she needs the shovel no big loss.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

some of my favorite roses have been $1 roses!

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Very pretty indeed! Now to find it.

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seil zone 6b MI

You can find Jeanne all over the place. It's pretty common. Be fore warned though, it gets BIG! Mine was about 4 inches tall when I got it in June. It's about 3 feet tall now and my friends have had one for years that COVERS the entire side of their garage!

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

The grass looks awfully close to the roses, and the roses will get a lot larger. I would remove at least another foot of grass along the row of roses to give the rose roots more room.

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rabainsz7bpnw

Ingrid.. I agree with u and that's my spring project...to make more roomy beds by removing the grass by a foot on all sides.

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

For now I would cut away the dead parts, water well and put the rose in bright shade, no sun at all. This will allow the rose to recover and, as hot as it is right now, your rose really doesn't need sun until it recovers. I would snip off any buds it has now or produces while it's recovering so that it can focus on growing stems and leaves.

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Need2SeeGreen(10 (SoCal))

Thanks so much, everyone!!! What you say makes perfect sense. I have moved it to a shadier area and the heat is dropping off some now. I will definitely rotate from now on. It is up on stilts and wrapped in fabric but I guess that just wasn't enough.

Thanks again!

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jacqueline9CA

I think your plan for it is fine - it will be OK in the larger pot until Spring, when it would love to be put in the bed you mention. Glad you are keeping it - I am sure you will love it when it gets going in its new location.

Jackie

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ut2nc

Your Rainbows End Rose is beautiful! I love it!

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Besides well done compost I spread leaves, small branches, etc. on the beds... But never kitchen scraps mainly because of critter problems...

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irisgal_z9

I've been burying kitchen scraps for many years and have not had the opossums or racoons do any digging. J.Kelly nailed it. Turning scraps into a puree will hasten decomposition, not replace it. Shame on that demonstrator.

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