22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jerijen(Zone 10)

We had this done, years ago, and yes -- they said plants right up against the house would need to be removed, or might die as a result of seeping chemicals.

The only thing we had in jeopardy was creeping fig, which I WANTED to kill. In fact, I cut the d*mned stuff off at the "roots," to make sure. I figured that, when the tent came off, the fig climbing on the house would be dead.

NO SUCH LUCK. The chemicals didn't bother the stuff at all. In fact I believe they fed on it.

Jeri

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 2:00PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I was told when we tented Mom & Dad's house was to absolutely soak the soil around the plants, as the gas getting to the root system is what kills them. Wet soil prevents the gas from going much into the soil. We did soak. The established plants were all fine. A few newly planted ones were dead within a day. I have no conclusions about that to offer--just my experience.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 3:04PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Roses in the house will be ruined by spider mites unless you fight them constantly. Even so, the plants will be unhappy.

Another way to winter potted roses in zone 6 is to push them against the south or east foundation and pile leaves around the pot. When very cold temperatures impend, add some more leaves over the pot, but expose the canes during mild spells so they don't stay wet.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 1:41PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

I put layers of blankets or sleeping bags on my roses. Then in the spring, I start to unlayer them.
Hope you have better luck.
Carol

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 1:53PM
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susan4952(5)

After a bloom, snap off, " deadhead" that spent bloom. The pods, or hips, only allowed in the fall when he is going dormant.
Forming a hip or seed pod, zaps the energy needed to continue blooming elsewhere on the plant during the growing season. Differs with different roses so just a generalization. But I would nip off those pods for now.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 6:23PM
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hdanko

Wonderful! Thank you.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 9:01AM
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alameda/zone 8

Beautiful plant! I have a Tess that is 5-6 years old, planted in the ground against a big fan trellis. This rose has done wonderfully well - free of disease, blooms some even in our hot Texas summers. Its thorny, but a really, good healthy rose. Am sure those leaves are just no longer of use to the plant - I don't worry that my roses have to have totally perfect leaves - if they are growing, blooming and have most their leaves - I am happy. I think you will really enjoy Tess when you get her situated in the ground - give her plenty of room to spread out - she will delight you with lots of blooms!
Judith

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 12:59AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

I would also water it really, really well before it goes into the garage.
Carol

    Bookmark     August 21, 2014 at 1:08AM
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HollyKline

Rainbow Niagra, I think!

Here is a link that might be useful: Rainbow Niagra

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 11:45AM
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ColoradoRosarianGuy(5b)

Nastarana, the leaves are not at all like Peace and I know what you mean, as I also grow Peace in my rose beds. HollyKline, nope, that is not her. I am going to stick with Tahitian Sunset as that is what her tag says. Just got a unique but beautiful set of striped blooms from her.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 7:42PM
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catsrose(VA 6)

Thank you, Henry. Excellent, concise descriptions of rose diseases.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 5:43PM
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We need more of this...tonight and alwaysPeace
Posted by susan4952(5) August 18, 2014
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sara_ann-z6bok

Susan - That is lovely!

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 6:58AM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Oh yeah!!! :-)

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 5:08PM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

boncrow I was hoping you'd see that!

    Bookmark     August 18, 2014 at 10:02PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Yep, Thegardenat902, if you're around Des Moines then all of these roses should work fine for you. You get a little more moisture than we do in an average summer, but we have generally similar weather.

As for Ramblin' Red, it sounds like you got a great deal on a healthy rose. Make sure to water it in well planting it as late in the season as this, but an established plant that's super hardy as this one is should be no problem. I like mine OK, but it's in a part shade region of my yard and isn't as impressive as the same rose in other people's yards. For me, Quadra and Illusion are more reliable rebloomers, but you have a good spot picked out for you and it should work well. Just be sure to tie the canes on horizontally as soon as possible on your fence, as this one has pretty stiff thorny canes.

Have fun and send pictures!

Cynthia

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 2:45PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks, Henry, I changed my bookmark to the new addy.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 11:01AM
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nilesrath

Thanks. I had wondered if they were Japanese Beetles. I wasn't sure though because they were so small. I thought JB's were bigger and not as shiny looking.

I have read on some forums that even though they may eat all the leaves, the rose plant will continue living. The one plant they got to first has no leaves left, but I think there are a few new shoots about to come out. Will the plants survive if I do nothing? Or will the JB's kill them entirely?

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 10:24AM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

They'll survive! The only concern would be weak or teeny roses, where they can't afford to lose so many leaves.

If you have that few (it is really few, sadly), then hand-pick them to squish, let die in an old water bottle, plop into a soapy bucket, etc. I usually go the water bottle route (before the droves come). Then I just throw it away with them contained in it. I usually recycle, but one water bottle compared to pesticides should even out ;) I hide it with their dying bodies inside and use it again the next day, too, but that gets smelly after a while! Don't say you weren't warned :D

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 1:41AM
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seil zone 6b MI

In my garden they seem to eat any and everything in their path no matter what.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 7:38PM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Ok , thanks ! I will probably buy it , even tho it's pricey and will get to 8 ft tall . It really is a violet blue and I love it ! I know new intros are priced accordingly but I can't resist .

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 11:06PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Unfortunately, a harsh winter in these parts happens every decade or so. But, on the up side, if they are still green up top, they are growing nice happy roots below. More roots, more top growth. That's the way I've always looked at it. It has also been a much cooler summer than normal, and I think this may have contributed to the slower growth. Hang in there!

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 8:43PM
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farmerduck

My roses aren't blooming much (or at all for some of them, even "mature" onces), and I initially thought that they are recovering from the harsh winter. However, thanks to a poster on this forum, (Jim from Pennsylvania to be specific), it turns out that I have a massive outbreak of rose midge. If your plants are growing nicely, but do not flower, google rose midge, just in case.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 10:48PM
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bluegirl_gw

Peace?
That sure is a gorgeous rose!

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 10:30PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I agree. It's probably the famous and very popular Peace rose. It is a hybrid tea rose and, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful roses in the world.

Kate

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 10:32PM
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the_bustopher z6 MO

Mine maxes out between 4 and 5 ft in height. It does not spread out much; it is almost cylindrical in growth. It repeats reasonably well and is fragrant to an extent with a damask-type fragrance. The plant I have now is my third one. The first two failed to survive our winter-spring transitions. It may be fine where you are if other Portland roses do well there also.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 4:54PM
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nastarana(5a)

Mine did survive last winter, but has never bloomed. It clearly cannot tolerate shade. I hope to move it to a new location next spring.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 8:33PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I think it's just an old spent bloom that needs dead heading. Botrytis would effect all the blooms not just the old ones. You'd see brown edges on all the petals even the tight buds. And the buds would probably not open all the way like the one on the right is. Different varieties will age in different ways. Some hang on to their petals and get the used kleenex look while others will simple drop all their petals.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 4:40PM
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Newbie90

Ah that's good news hopefully then :) thanks for the help everyone

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 6:45PM
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