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Part of your decision making (pot vs. plant) may be the number of months of good rose growing the roses will have before summer heat stunts their growth.
In my garden stunting heat begins late June.
I have planted bare roots (a sale for the ages at Park Wayside over a decade ago, $1 per rose, last weekend in June) and I planted over 100 bareroot roses and lost none of them. But my summer that year was spent watering the roses every other day and I probably wouldn't do it now as wisdom has come with age.


Mine just arrived and look great - green, healthy, large rootballs. Got Showstopper, Nancy Jean and Sandusky. The first 2 I saw at a rose show - and Showstopper is just that! NJ is a lovely color - Sandusky looks very pretty from the photos. They are planted now and I expect to see them start growing right away. This is my first order from them, and I would certainly order more from this company!
Judith

It's just sulking because you disturbed it. No matter how careful you are when you dig them up you always lose some of the root ball. It's probably just growing some new roots. As already stated keep it watered and no more chemical fertilizer until it starts to grow again but you can add organics any time and it shouldn't hurt it.

..I also find this terribly exciting despite running the gauntlet of neighbours who think you're off your trolley,...
..Bonica is full of fresh growth and shoots and no doubt plenty of hidden buds, but of my other garden roses I've just noticed some on one of my Austin's and I'm delighted about that... it's still quite early...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets so excited, guess it goes with this love of roses we all have. It really does look like I am going to have a lot of blooms. I have never had this many roses at one time in their third year of growth, so I am looking forward to that LEAP! This evening I'll add Belinda's Dream, Sunsprite, Aloha and Julia Child to the list of newly discovered buds!

Your question reminds me of the time and effort I put into working with body bag roses. In the past I would just write off a rose if it was a one cane "wonder" (as in I wonder when it will decided to grow). This year I put everything I've learned over the years into my small collection and I have to tell you that I'm almost at a 100% success rate (damn Double Delight just sits there mocking me with it's green bare cane). So how does this apply to your situation? Treat your Firefighter like you would a bodybag rose. Give it plenty of water, trim it back a bit, and apply alfalfa tea and KMag. Give the roots your primary attention, not the plant, and it'll begin to grow. You may also want to consider applying a root promoting liquid soluble fertilizer.



Grass fertilizer would be much cheaper than bloodmeal but bloodmeal will give a slower release which is ideal for Gary's bareroots. I would be concerned about using large quantities of bloodmeal if he has a dog or if his garden is visited by raccoons.

I did have a soil test done. It said to:
a. add nitrogen (but not phosphorous or potassium).
b. decrease the pH from 7.1 to 6.5
Should I incorporate blood meal (12-0-0) and/or Ammonium Sulfate (21-0-0) in the soil?


I received Firefighter last May and it didn't make it through my southern California summer. I replaced it with Oklahoma, because I saw that it did well in my friend's garden. It's doing great for me so far and we are having a heat wave this week. I've read that Oklahoma does well in dry heat, not humid. I'm sure the Firefighter would have been a great rose, if it could have made it through until it matured. I think the Firefighter should get the cooler spot.

I forgot that 'Marie Pavie' was mentioned. It's bullet-proof for me -- was the first to bloom in Spring 2014, and among the last in Autumn. Also, it maintained relatively clean foliage without fungicides. I say "relatively" because in my area, virtually every rose will get at least a little by late Summer into Autumn.
:-)
~Christopher

Congratulations! Sounds like you did a terrific job. Give Peace a chance (lol, pun intended)!. Not all roses grow at the same rate. It might just be a slower grower than the others. Once it settles in and grows some more roots it will take off.




Cut off the black part.