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jerijen(Zone 10)

Cut off the black part.

1 Like    Bookmark   April 1, 2015 at 11:17AM
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soranch
jerijen... How far back should I cut back
    Bookmark   April 1, 2015 at 11:33AM
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jkellydallas(8a)

Wow, alameda! I've had all sorts of stuff stolen, but they dug up rose bushes???? That's hardcore. I grew up in a small town where we didn't lock the doors. I don't know if times have changed or it's that I live in a big city, but wow,

    Bookmark   April 1, 2015 at 9:15AM
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stillanntn6b

Part of your decision making (pot vs. plant) may be the number of months of good rose growing the roses will have before summer heat stunts their growth.
In my garden stunting heat begins late June.
I have planted bare roots (a sale for the ages at Park Wayside over a decade ago, $1 per rose, last weekend in June) and I planted over 100 bareroot roses and lost none of them. But my summer that year was spent watering the roses every other day and I probably wouldn't do it now as wisdom has come with age.

1 Like    Bookmark   April 1, 2015 at 9:29AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Glad to hear they're nice. I have 6 on order. Not sure when they'll ship them but I'm hoping in April sometime. Although at this point that may still be too soon. It's snowing out right now!

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 8:19PM
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alameda/zone 8

Mine just arrived and look great - green, healthy, large rootballs. Got Showstopper, Nancy Jean and Sandusky. The first 2 I saw at a rose show - and Showstopper is just that! NJ is a lovely color - Sandusky looks very pretty from the photos. They are planted now and I expect to see them start growing right away. This is my first order from them, and I would certainly order more from this company!

Judith

    Bookmark   April 1, 2015 at 8:29AM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's just sulking because you disturbed it. No matter how careful you are when you dig them up you always lose some of the root ball. It's probably just growing some new roots. As already stated keep it watered and no more chemical fertilizer until it starts to grow again but you can add organics any time and it shouldn't hurt it.

    Bookmark   Thanked by rhoder551 zone 9b-10    March 31, 2015 at 3:46PM
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rhoder551 zone 9b-10

Thanks everyone! I'm feeling better about my rose situation....

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 5:20PM
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Marlorena-z8 England-

..I also find this terribly exciting despite running the gauntlet of neighbours who think you're off your trolley,...
..Bonica is full of fresh growth and shoots and no doubt plenty of hidden buds, but of my other garden roses I've just noticed some on one of my Austin's and I'm delighted about that... it's still quite early...

1 Like    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 5:09AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets so excited, guess it goes with this love of roses we all have. It really does look like I am going to have a lot of blooms. I have never had this many roses at one time in their third year of growth, so I am looking forward to that LEAP! This evening I'll add Belinda's Dream, Sunsprite, Aloha and Julia Child to the list of newly discovered buds!

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 4:46PM
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kublakan

Your question reminds me of the time and effort I put into working with body bag roses. In the past I would just write off a rose if it was a one cane "wonder" (as in I wonder when it will decided to grow). This year I put everything I've learned over the years into my small collection and I have to tell you that I'm almost at a 100% success rate (damn Double Delight just sits there mocking me with it's green bare cane). So how does this apply to your situation? Treat your Firefighter like you would a bodybag rose. Give it plenty of water, trim it back a bit, and apply alfalfa tea and KMag. Give the roots your primary attention, not the plant, and it'll begin to grow. You may also want to consider applying a root promoting liquid soluble fertilizer.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 6:30AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

I appreciate all this good advice, thanks everyone. I like the idea of planting another similar or same variety rose close to it, Kublakan, thanks so much for your suggestions.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 4:33PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I think Jeri would know for sure. Maybe you could give her a PM.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 3:53PM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

Very good talk. I heard him speak at our county extension February meeting. He dispels some myths. The amount of devastation in his personal garden is painful to see.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 3:45PM
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Adrianne(7b Georgia)

Aaaahh! Beautiful! Thanks for the photos! It's getting me even more excited for our 1st spring flush here, which is still a few weeks away.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 8:50AM
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floridarosez9

My larks didn't get as tall as usual, either, due to the high temps we had in March. They started setting buds instead of getting taller. Your bouquets are just beautiful.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 2:23PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

If you do wait till September to order online, make sure you do it right away. Many of the popular roses sell out day one. It's like ordering the iPhone day one.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 3:44AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks Buford for the shopping tip! :-) Will do. I really want one Jenny Duval for some reason, it sold out.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 7:48AM
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cecily(7 VA)

Grass fertilizer would be much cheaper than bloodmeal but bloodmeal will give a slower release which is ideal for Gary's bareroots. I would be concerned about using large quantities of bloodmeal if he has a dog or if his garden is visited by raccoons.

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 4:29AM
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Gary(USDA ZONE = 9B; SUNSET ZONE = 18 --- RIVERSIDE, CA (USA))

I did have a soil test done. It said to:

a. add nitrogen (but not phosphorous or potassium).

b. decrease the pH from 7.1 to 6.5

Should I incorporate blood meal (12-0-0) and/or Ammonium Sulfate (21-0-0) in the soil?

    Bookmark   March 31, 2015 at 6:19AM
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densiemill

I can only tell you that Oklahoma did great for me in Georgia in full sun.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 3:11PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

I received Firefighter last May and it didn't make it through my southern California summer. I replaced it with Oklahoma, because I saw that it did well in my friend's garden. It's doing great for me so far and we are having a heat wave this week. I've read that Oklahoma does well in dry heat, not humid. I'm sure the Firefighter would have been a great rose, if it could have made it through until it matured. I think the Firefighter should get the cooler spot.

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 5:09PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

I forgot that 'Marie Pavie' was mentioned. It's bullet-proof for me -- was the first to bloom in Spring 2014, and among the last in Autumn. Also, it maintained relatively clean foliage without fungicides. I say "relatively" because in my area, virtually every rose will get at least a little by late Summer into Autumn.

:-)

~Christopher

1 Like    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 11:42AM
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kaesgarden(Wa Cascades Zone 7)

Thanks Christopher,

I've been goggling it and the little beauty is already on it's way so i have to find a way to make it work to the best that i can. Here's wishing me good luck! :)

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 4:16PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Congratulations! Sounds like you did a terrific job. Give Peace a chance (lol, pun intended)!. Not all roses grow at the same rate. It might just be a slower grower than the others. Once it settles in and grows some more roots it will take off.

1 Like    Bookmark   Thanked by Christen McClintock    March 30, 2015 at 9:47AM
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ozmelodye

Read Pappu's stinking mess and Dog in Elk last night and nearly killed myself laughing. Unfortunately, I was reading in bed. Dog and husband were not impressed!

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 7:05AM
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ozmelodye

Forgot to mention, after reading Suicidal Gardenia, I totally ignore mine AND IT WORKS!!!

    Bookmark   March 30, 2015 at 7:09AM
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