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kinglemuelswife(3)

Thanks again to everyone. I am starting to feel like it's possible to enjoy roses again. :)

gallica: Thanks for mentioning about the garden clubs; it jarred my memory and now I recall there being a rose sale put on by a nearby garden club a while back. I didn't give it much thought because the nurseries had been so discouraging, and the prices at the garden club sale were $30 and up. I guess I thought the garden club was selling the nursery roses for ridiculous prices. Now that I think about it more, it must have been a real rose sale and perhaps I'll be smart enough to cash in this time. And I do remember riku now that you mention him. He was in Saskatchewan or Manitoba, I think. I'll look up his posts.

plantloverkat: I checked on that thread and found a lot of roses to look into. Thanks!

canadian_rose: I appreciate the heads-up on Chrysler Imperial, as that's what started this whole thing. :) It's good to know it won't be a great grower because she's touted as a "climber" and I was going to arrange a small garden around her climbing. Now I won't. That saved me a lot of hassle. I had a good laugh picturing myself telling my husband about why I want him to drive me around in fall and collect other peoples' bags of leaves. :) But I'm intrigued to be honest; and I just might be crazy enough to try that method if it will allow me to grow roses. I'll take a look at your methods (anywhere specific I should look?) as I am also very interested in growing roses in pots. I've heard others say it (in this thread, too) and I have a few questions such as, do you water them? But I am going to stick Chrysler Imperial in a pot for now anyway.

true-blue: I looked up Cornhill...thank you! I was so used to going to Hortico (I know there are divided opinions, but I always bought there and had good success) and picking up whatever rose my heart desired. Cornhill might just be my link to trying different roses that aren't stocked here. I really didn't know you could grow that many kinds in this climate. Thanks again.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 12:31PM
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true_blue(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Most welcome. If you go to the far north gardening you might find people who are ready to trade hybrid spinosissima roses suckers.Prairie peace is one such rose.

Here is a link that might be useful: Prairie peace

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 3:21PM
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More Blooming Part 2ALOHA
Posted by sara_ann-z6bok May 13, 2014
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sara_ann-z6bok

BIG MOMMA, a more open bloom

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:27PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

FORGOTTEN DREAMS

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:30PM
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More varieties bloomingBUXOM BEAUTY
Posted by sara_ann-z6bok May 12, 2014
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh lovely!!
I just planted a bare root of Buxom Beauty. What do you think of this rose?

Your Love Song is soooo pretty! Such a lovely rose!

Tropicana has the shade of orange that, to me, is just perfect!!! Wow!

Which fragrance do you like better - from:
Buxom Beauty or
Sheila's Perfum
Thanks!
Carol

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 6:59PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Carol - Thank you very much. Both Sheila's Perfume and Buxom Beauty have a nice fragrance. To me Buxom Beauty's fragrance is very strong, more so than Sheila's Perfume.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 7:06PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I experienced much the same thing, View. I lost more of the potted ones than the ones in the ground. I'm not sure why either. They were well protected and had snow cover as well. Like you, when I took them out of storage in April many of them had green cane. Later that all died back and now they're just stumps. Where as the ones in the ground for the most part died to the soil but are coming up with new basals from the grafts. The only thing I can think of is that it was just too cold for too long a period of time and the damage was already done. There was one two week period when we never got above single digits at all and were well below zero every night. As low as -26 degrees a few nights. That's pretty cold and is probably what did them in. I haven't counted all of them out yet because things have not been very warm here still but if they all do die I'll have lost some where around 60 roses altogether. A few in the ground but mostly in the pots. Even the tree rose that was heavily wrapped and in the shed has no signs of life yet. I'm sad about some of them but I have a huge want list and will slowly replace them with those. I'm looking at it as a chance to regroup and maybe make some better decisions on what I want in my garden. This isn't the first time I've suffered heavy losses. I lost 30 some in April of 2007 when we had that Easter freeze. I'm sure this won't be the last time either. We can do our best but Mother Nature is still in charge. Every once in a while she lets us know that.

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view1ny NY 6-7

seil, the temps have been in the 60s & 70s here in Brooklyn since May 1. Sat, Sun & Mon were in the low 80s so my other roses are really leafing out. Even my wimpy Austins that were only about 10" tall after 3 years came thru the winter great & look quite healthy now. I think I should stop complaining about them.

So I guess I'll wait another few weeks to see what happens with my casualties. I wonder if I threw Honor out too soon; it looked dead to me so I dumped it to make room for new roses. Oh well.

Cynthia, thanks for giving me hope. I went out to check & Sexy Rexy's miniscule growth is coming from the graft, not below. I really hope that Bride's Dream makes it since it's the kind of rose that takes your breath away. Only time will tell.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 6:51PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

It is showing "out of stock" at Angel Gardens, but a note on their site says to send them an email to ask if they might have some smaller plants that they are growing out.

Under no circunstances should you order from the last vendor that you mentioned. I don't care if the rose is $1, it won't be worth the trouble.

This post was edited by diane_nj on Tue, May 13, 14 at 19:53

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CapeHeart(z6ccMA)

Yes I had looked on Angel Gardens! Thanks so much I should have emailed them Thank You! :) Yes I heard the last one isn't a good source.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 4:48PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I agree--JC is gorgeous. However, my bush has been a bit on the wimpish side since I first planted it 6-7 years ago--never really has "matured," as it were. Just not a vigorous rose at all.

Kate

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:55AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Far better disease resistance on JC. Far better fragrance on RR.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:30PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

I think it is in zone 2 or 3. Have tried to find it on map. Looks like it is al little west of Anchorage. Thanks, Kate. I have tried to find zone before, but will try to research a little further!

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 11:36AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

My sister is in Anchorage. Wasilla is a wee bit warmer, it's considered "Mat-Su" (See link) but the rose recommendations are about the same.

Here is a link that might be useful: Roses in Alaska

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:28PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Congrats, Charleney!

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 1:54PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Yes, I would love to see a photo too. Wow! 62 years old. Almost as old as "moi". lol

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:20PM
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annhelen(8b GA)

How thorny is Carding Mill??

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:25PM
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andreark

Not very, that I have noticed. Of course I have Pristine,
Oregold, and some other HTs that look as though they
are armed liked gladiators....Nothing next to them looks thorny. I never wear gloves, so I think I would have noticed.

andrea

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 1:00PM
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vampygirl13

I'll update you on my climbers--

New Dawn grew huge and had a cane almost over the arbor until winter hit. I had to only prune back the winter kill and now it's covered in leaves and new canes. It's my best grower.

The 4th of July is not doing well--as of today I see no green anywhere and I'm worried it got RRD. Our nursery guru says to wait and see but I'm about to rip it out.

Joseph's coat is leafing out nicely and has new shoots.

My Abraham Darby (was its own root) is really growing like a weed and I hope it just continues.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:12PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Dani, I grow Eden, Jasmina and Renae. They are all wonderful, but Eden is picky about conditions as far as repeat goes. Renae throws a lot of new canes, but she's easy enough to keep in bounds even here, as long as you plan on pruning. She has the best repeat for me, and she's totally thornless! I have her on a shed now, but I think she'd be great for an arbor as long as you are prepared to prune hard if necessary. She has lax canes, so you have to train her as she grows, too.

Jasmina is pretty thorny! Little thorns, but thorny. Love her, though :)

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

You are looking for hybrid teas with "exhibition form". There are many. Start with the lists at Roseshow.com, which give the top winners. You can research photos of the roses at helpmefind.com, and also, the Santa Clarita Rose Society has lovely photos in the linked article.

I don't remember where you live, so care may be an issue. Also, many varieties are only available via mail order.

Some potentials off of the top of my head: Crystalline, Hot Princess, Vererans' Honor, Randy Scott, Touch of Class (plant not always full, but Sara_Ann just posted a photo of a very nice one that her sister grows), Kardinal, Folklore, Rina Hugo, Gemini, Signature, St. Patrick, Cajun Moon, Moonstone (won Queen of Show at the ARS National Convention last weekend), Mavrik, Affirm, Louise Estes, Let Freedom Ring. Mister Lincoln can have good form.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 10:04AM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

This one sounds like just the thing (for the East Coast)

So many awards - see the awards tab, but we can't have it in the US?

Here is a link that might be useful: Apache

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:12PM
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kathy9norcal

Is Black Magic still available.? I love mine. Stays dark red even in the heat. It never gets bluish. My camera, when I took this picture, didn't capture how dark the red was. It is a med-tall narrow bush for me, lots of blooms.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:51AM
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kansas.girl

Wow, I would love to see your garden, Kate. I can only imagine how beautiful it must be! I feel like I have so long to go before I can enjoy anything as lovely as that at my house. Glad to hear the severe weather we just had didn't affect your garden!

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:52PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Have a great time! I'm sure it'll be gorgeous :)

Most of my roses are still buds -- so many buds! I can't wait. Some roses had to be cut all the way back, so it's nice to see so many doing well after the awful winter.

Blooming for a while now: Purezza and Pompon de Paris, Cl.

Just started but already looking nice: Lavender Dream, Natchitoches Noisette, Parade, Georgetown HP, High Society, Pat Austin, and a pink poly whose name I can never remember :D Oh, and Renae started!

I even have a tulip magnolia 'Jane' who is still blooming right beside Parade, and it's so pretty. Parade almost caught the lilac bloom this year, too! She didn't mind the winter one bit.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:46PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Rose Tone and alfalfa pellets are sufficient. Nothing else is needed. In fact, the pellets may not even be needed since Rose Tone already has some alfalfa in it.

What rose is that? If it is Double Delight, you need to know that DD hates Daconil.

Kate

    Bookmark   May 5, 2014 at 7:33AM
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astronomer2(6)

to dublinbay: I'm convinced my problem was frost. My roses are now looking pretty good for this time of the year. The rose shown is not Double Delight. The name I have down for it is Spicy Fragrant, but I'm a little worried that this name is incorrect. I keep a table with all of my roses listed, with name and year acquired, so I don't have any reason to doubt this name, but I can't find anything about it on the internet!! Thanks for your help, David

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 7:17PM
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