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vampygirl13

I'll update you on my climbers--

New Dawn grew huge and had a cane almost over the arbor until winter hit. I had to only prune back the winter kill and now it's covered in leaves and new canes. It's my best grower.

The 4th of July is not doing well--as of today I see no green anywhere and I'm worried it got RRD. Our nursery guru says to wait and see but I'm about to rip it out.

Joseph's coat is leafing out nicely and has new shoots.

My Abraham Darby (was its own root) is really growing like a weed and I hope it just continues.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:12PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Dani, I grow Eden, Jasmina and Renae. They are all wonderful, but Eden is picky about conditions as far as repeat goes. Renae throws a lot of new canes, but she's easy enough to keep in bounds even here, as long as you plan on pruning. She has the best repeat for me, and she's totally thornless! I have her on a shed now, but I think she'd be great for an arbor as long as you are prepared to prune hard if necessary. She has lax canes, so you have to train her as she grows, too.

Jasmina is pretty thorny! Little thorns, but thorny. Love her, though :)

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 12:55PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

You are looking for hybrid teas with "exhibition form". There are many. Start with the lists at Roseshow.com, which give the top winners. You can research photos of the roses at helpmefind.com, and also, the Santa Clarita Rose Society has lovely photos in the linked article.

I don't remember where you live, so care may be an issue. Also, many varieties are only available via mail order.

Some potentials off of the top of my head: Crystalline, Hot Princess, Vererans' Honor, Randy Scott, Touch of Class (plant not always full, but Sara_Ann just posted a photo of a very nice one that her sister grows), Kardinal, Folklore, Rina Hugo, Gemini, Signature, St. Patrick, Cajun Moon, Moonstone (won Queen of Show at the ARS National Convention last weekend), Mavrik, Affirm, Louise Estes, Let Freedom Ring. Mister Lincoln can have good form.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 10:04AM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

This one sounds like just the thing (for the East Coast)

So many awards - see the awards tab, but we can't have it in the US?

Here is a link that might be useful: Apache

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:12PM
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kathy9norcal

Is Black Magic still available.? I love mine. Stays dark red even in the heat. It never gets bluish. My camera, when I took this picture, didn't capture how dark the red was. It is a med-tall narrow bush for me, lots of blooms.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 2:51AM
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kansas.girl

Wow, I would love to see your garden, Kate. I can only imagine how beautiful it must be! I feel like I have so long to go before I can enjoy anything as lovely as that at my house. Glad to hear the severe weather we just had didn't affect your garden!

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:52PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Have a great time! I'm sure it'll be gorgeous :)

Most of my roses are still buds -- so many buds! I can't wait. Some roses had to be cut all the way back, so it's nice to see so many doing well after the awful winter.

Blooming for a while now: Purezza and Pompon de Paris, Cl.

Just started but already looking nice: Lavender Dream, Natchitoches Noisette, Parade, Georgetown HP, High Society, Pat Austin, and a pink poly whose name I can never remember :D Oh, and Renae started!

I even have a tulip magnolia 'Jane' who is still blooming right beside Parade, and it's so pretty. Parade almost caught the lilac bloom this year, too! She didn't mind the winter one bit.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:46PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Rose Tone and alfalfa pellets are sufficient. Nothing else is needed. In fact, the pellets may not even be needed since Rose Tone already has some alfalfa in it.

What rose is that? If it is Double Delight, you need to know that DD hates Daconil.

Kate

    Bookmark   May 5, 2014 at 7:33AM
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astronomer2(6)

to dublinbay: I'm convinced my problem was frost. My roses are now looking pretty good for this time of the year. The rose shown is not Double Delight. The name I have down for it is Spicy Fragrant, but I'm a little worried that this name is incorrect. I keep a table with all of my roses listed, with name and year acquired, so I don't have any reason to doubt this name, but I can't find anything about it on the internet!! Thanks for your help, David

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 7:17PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

If you want to hold off on watering, then I would not deadhead them. Deadheading sends a signal to the plant to start the reblooming process. You will want to make sure they stay hydrated for the best blooms. I'm so lucky to never have to worry about water here in S.C. Its a tough decision to not encourage new blooming as thats certainly why we planted and babied these plants!

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 3:52PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Wow, that is a big difference. I wish I could say why but I really have no idea what might cause that on the same plant. Unless it's a sport

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 3:42PM
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roseseek

Hi Linda, traditionally ramblers are more lax, their canes are more flexible, more easily trained, most often with smaller individual flowers in clusters. Climbers have tended to have stiffer canes and most often with larger individual flowers. Climate, maturity, condition of the plant, growing conditions can often make one type resemble another until conditions improve or the plant settles in. Kim

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 6:15PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

Ramblers are also not repeat bloomers the way climbers are. Dr.Huey is also pretty thorny too-- hard to tell from the photo posted.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 2:10PM
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monarda_gw

Voles are almost as bad as deer, IMO. They eat the roots of fruit trees, roses, and many perennials (probably). It is so incredibly disheartening.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:10AM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

It really is awful. Mine are the type that might not run around above ground, but they do use mole tunnels. I have both moles and voles, and so the tunneling is extensive. If you see holes in the ground that are like a quarter in diameter, those are the vole holes.

I use 1/2 inch-spaced hardware cloth and cut it with straight-tipped "tin snip" metal cutters that look a bit like scissors. I'm really fast and good at making the baskets now :) It works wonderfully. I've seen holes where they tried to go in from below and couldn't do it, or where they changed their mind if they went in the top. When they hit the metal, they change course either way.

I did have to dig up all of my established roses when the voles found the roses. I was losing too many, so fast!

There is a bait that does not cause the same damage to dogs, etc, but it would hurt squirrels and smaller rodents that ate it. I bought some once but was still too afraid to use it. I just have so much wildlife here that I didn't risk it. The baskets work the best anyway, so that's how I handle it now. And I encourage the snakes that the neighbors had practically killed off. That'll help :D :D

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 1:31PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I don't think it's the thrips. Those generally tend to attack blooms not canes. If you have the receipts I'd take them back and try for new ones.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 3:47PM
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alodal2929

Thank you I did pull them straight out of the ground no digging needed and no roots, went and replaced them with three new rose bushes.... Now on to tackling my Thrips!!! Ugh!

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 12:21PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

If clematis are struggling there--roses likely will also--box hedges don't require a lot as they are slow-growing. If it was me I would FIRST determine why the clems are not doing well before planting anything new. This will save you $$$$ in the long run!

Think of the soil and light/water conditions before any shopping. This is the "infrastructure" for plants. You would not think about curtains or pillows before you have a room to put them in, would you? Same thing with plants...

Some things to think about: how long have the clems been there. How were they planted. What is the soil like. How much sun are they getting and how much water. Is there root competition from trees nearby. Is there root competition from the box hedge.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 10:17AM
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