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pat_bamaz7

Most, if not all, hybrid teas require spraying with fungicide in our humidity. Some need to be sprayed every 2 weeks, but some can be sprayed monthly or less. There are some that, no matter how much you spray, will still suffer from fungal issues in our high humidityâ¦Angel Face and Chrysler Imperial come to mind off hand. If you use the Bayer brand fungicide spray (I believe its official name is Bayer Advanced Disease Controlâ¦just the fungicide spray, not the one with insecticide included), it is a cure, as well as, a preventative. By using it, you can wait until a rose starts to show signs of blackspot to spray (infected leaves wonâÂÂt turn back green, but the fungus will be killed). If you use a spray that is a preventative only, more frequent spraying will be necessary to combat fungal problems. Spraying a chemical fungicide is not difficult, but it is a chemical you are spraying in the environment. If you want a chemical free garden, there are organic alternatives, but they usually are not as effective in treating and preventing blackspot in high humidity climates. Many gardeners use chemical fungicides, but many are adamantly against it. You will want to do some research and make your own decision on that.
As far as antique roses, you wonâÂÂt get the high centered exhibition form or as long a vase life from them. There are some charming antiques that would be great, disease resistant performers in your climate, though. Teas, noisettes, chinas and polyanthas would be good ones to look at, but again, the form, bloom size and vase life are different from moderns...and most of the teas and noisettes will get huge in your climate. You might want to consider some of the antique climbers for your fence and get hybrid teas as your shrubs or vice versa to see which you prefer long term. I was originally a hybrid tea fanatic, but have really come to appreciate the beauty and ease of the antiques lately.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 12:58PM
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jovy1097(8B)

I highly recommend Belinda's Dream. I too live in Louisiana and it performs like a champion without any spraying for us. You could also try Quietness and Earthsong. If you want an old antique that gets about 8' x 8' and loves our climate, then give Mrs. B. R. Cant a try. I've got lots of information on an old blog that I haven't updated in a couple of years at the below link.

Here is a link that might be useful: Davy's Garden Blog

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 4:54PM
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Seeingreen

Sounds like your doing all the right things, I bet the rose will bounce back though it might take sometime, My only suggestion is it might be helpful for the rose to received some partial shade until it's root system is once again established. (If the temps are high in your area). I keep most of my roses on a porch in whiskey barrels and they seem quite content As for what the rose is, more pics could be helpful do you have any of the open blooms, a close up of the cains, maybe a pick of the full plant? Are the leaves glossy or matte? What is the color of new growth? If I was guessing off the cuff...it might be Joseph's Coat....but that's a big maybe

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 3:02PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Without seeing bloom pics we probably can't ID it. Without an ID we can't really tell you what else to do. Let grow for a bit, take more pics of everything and post those later on and maybe we can help you put a name to it.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 3:16PM
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subk3

Lilyfinch, I'm in Franklin and like shopping at the True Value Garden Center, too. If you don't know about it you need to go check out Riverbend Nursery in Thompson Station. (Thompson Station Rd and Lewisburg Pike) Most of what they do is wholesale, but the also have a big retail setup. They usually have a good selection of perennials and annuals at very good prices. They also have a handful of roses, but really excel at shrubs, trees etc.

I love supporting my local businesses and will make the trek down there instead of the local box stores whenever I can.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 10:39AM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Subk3! How cool that you live so close. I live in spring hill and have been to riverbend many times ! I agree about supporting local business . Sometimes things in franklin can be a little overpriced because of the area. Riverbend is very fair! And friendly !!

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 2:41PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Thank you all. I dug up the plant and put it in the pot and brought it to a filtered sun location. I was sorry to see some of the delicate roots break off, but I think the rose will be tough in that way. Against the extreme, radiated heat, not so tough. I too got this rose from Chamblees. It looked much better when it arrived than it does now. Good to hear that this rose is vigorous. Hopefully it will make a fine comeback. :)

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 1:26PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

And oh, yes...I'll get some mulch. Thank you for the reminder, Bluegirl.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 1:30PM
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Seeingreen

Welcome, and good luck with the roses!!! Twilight Zone is worth the effort :D

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 11:44PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I saw Twilight Zone yesterday at a Rose Show (best Grandiflora) and it was amazing.

I have Ebb Tide, and mine stays purple because I have it in part shade. In the hotter weather, if the rose gets a lot of sun, the color will fade. Especially in hotter zones in the South. If you have a spot that can get some afternoon shade, that would be ideal.

Most roses will slow down in 90 degree heat. Not much you can do about that. Just make sure they are watered well.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 6:48AM
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henry_kuska

I found the article, It was not blueberry, it was blackberry.

"The case of Blackberry chlorotic ringspot virus (BCRV) is of particular interest because the virus has been found to be an integral part of blackberry yellow vein disease and is widespread in rose plants affected by rose rosette disease."

http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-08-13-0866-RE

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 11:56PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

Ann, apparently it was an 'expert' that gave a seminar at the Greater Atlanta Rose Society. I was at their Rose Show yesterday and one of the members told me about it. I'm sure he either got it wrong or maybe this expert isn't really an expert.

Anyway, I am seeing SO MUCH multiflora this year. It's really scary.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 6:44AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I've never noticed the beetles in my trees but I can't say I ever looked for them either. I don't get a ton of them (knock wood) so maybe that's why I never noticed any damage.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 8:14PM
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mark_roeder(4B IA)

In 2013, due to the 2012 drought, we had a good summer with few beetles.

I planted my first garden plant today, I found a Japanese beetle grub. I found two June bugs. I thought grubs would be minimal since neighbors in our neighborhood had experienced frozen water pipes which were buried 4-feet or more deep. I was optimistic that our brutal winter killed them, but no.

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 1:31AM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Lovely! I have 2 that have some winter damage, but survived the winter. It will probably be 2 more weeks before mine bloom.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 2:06PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh! That IS lovely!!!
I agree with Seil - the red and lavender are so pretty together. Mmmmmm.!!
Carol

    Bookmark   May 11, 2014 at 12:56AM
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Full Bush ShotsBELINDA'S DREAM
Posted by sara_ann-z6bok May 9, 2014
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lesmc

Sara-Annâ¦wonderful pictures. Your roses are beautiful and healthy. Tiffany is my favorite rose and yours is outstanding. No roses blooming here yet, but I am surprised that I only lost a few. Many are trying to come back. Late blooms this spring. Keep sharingâ¦your roses are lovely. Lesley

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 9:27PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Lesley - I am so glad to hear from you and happy to know your roses fared better than you first thought, can't wait to see your beautiful gardens. I do agree, Tiffany is an outstanding rose, both mine have lots of blooms, the one in the picture looks a little better than the other one.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 10:30PM
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jacqueline9CA

Thanks for the tip! I have always liked Lowes, but the nearest one to us was way too far away. Recently heard one is opening fairly close - will definitely check it out.

Jackie

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 12:04PM
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aahl

I bought Brandy at Witherspoon in Durham two years ago and it has done well. I don't know if they still have it or how expensive.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 9:37PM
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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Several of my local Home Depots have Brandy, grafted. The selections do vary from store to store, so it's worth stopping in to check the selections at the big boxes if you have any nearby. I just picked up a Liv Tyler tree rose, I've been longing for Liv Tyler for two years.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 11:17AM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

My William Baffin just laughed off the cold and is leafing out wonderfully. My Livin Easy rose is growing from the ground as all the upper canes look dead and my knockouts are doing the same. All upper canes above the ground look dead with new growth coming from the ground level

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 9:47PM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Westerland endured a tough winter here. Not as tough as yours though. Some dead cane. Some alive to the top.

What's important is that the regrowth has been uneven, Some canes looked bad but had late growth. Others looked OK, then died. Meanwhile, there is lots of new growth coming from the base.

I agree with Seil. Give it a few more weeks. Then prune out the dead wood. Even if you are down to 6", Westerland will recover quickly and add 4 or 5 feet of cane by mid summer as mine does every year here.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 10:41AM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Well at least I'm not alone, and I am lucky to not have completely lost any roses this winter like so many here. It was in the eighties all week this week so perhaps this bad spring is all behind us!

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 7:55AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

It sounds the your roses are healthy, just the small blooms. I hope that somehow that will bring on a beautiful later in the season flush. By that time my roses won't be looking so great, especially if we don't get some decent rain here.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 9:03AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh!!!
So mucn color!!!!
I love your roses!!!!
I think I need to get The McCartney Rose. Yours is gorgeous!
I love your Pink Peaces. Stunning!!!
Thank you for sharing!!!
Carol

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 12:08AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you. Boncrow - Sunsprite is one of my favorites, the blooms always look pretty. Carol I think you'll like the McCartney Rose. I already loved Pink Peace, but this spring they look especially gorgeous, the pink is such a lovely shade.

    Bookmark   May 10, 2014 at 7:13AM
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A few more bloomsTIFFANY
Posted by sara_ann-z6bok May 8, 2014
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rosybunny

Sara-Ann: That first picture made my heart skip a beat. I've been feeling quite guilty about not taking any picture of all the lovely blooms that have happened this year, I'm swamped with gardening work! Therefore I am very grateful that you took your time to capture their utmost beauty at the perfect moment--someone should do it! :D I think you are becoming the new "eye candy-shop" owner here ;) Love and appreciation to you, your darling roses and grandchildren.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 4:35PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Carol - Thank you so much. You and others have been such encouragers and I do appreciate that so much. Hope everyone has roses blooming very soon. Rosbybunny that is such a nice compliment. I would love to see pictures of your roses when and if you get the time to take them and share. I think roses are so beautiful and I do love seeing them at their best, no matter who grows them. There are so many talented and gifted people on this forum, I have learned so much this past year.

    Bookmark   May 9, 2014 at 8:53PM
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