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Kathy, lots and lots of bloom would be lovely. Mine will be in morning sun only which may not be optimal, but I have a feeling the flowers will burn badly here in all-day sun. Fortunately, roses can always be moved. I'm not sure I like the really long canes but this was an impulse purchase so I have to accept whatever it does. I do love the color.
Ingrid

I'm envious, mustbnuts. You must have an inside connection to know in advance what roses will be up for auction. The event isn't at their usual meeting place and you must RSVP. Sorry, to my knowledge, the auction is set up as a private event due to permit requirements. However, other rose societies are welcome and you anyone can participate in the auction by proxy.
Here is a link that might be useful: SCV rose auction info



Nobody, eh? lol Well, a little further research turned up this link: http://californiaagriculture.ucanr.edu/landingpage.cfm?article=ca.v052n03p32&fulltext=yes
Not sure whether it's worth the price, but it looks as though it's effective.

It is possible that this virus is transmitted by aphids in roses:
http://www.dpvweb.net/dpv/showdpv.php?dpvno=040
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Thu, Feb 5, 15 at 0:25

This is where it has been reported in the U.S. (but not in roses):
http://www.prevalentviruses.org/subject.cfm?id=56359
If it does spread to roses by aphids, it could be a real problem because it can also infect weeds and Gladiolus which could serve as reservoirs for the virus :
http://www.actahort.org/books/234/234_44.htm
Here is a link that might be useful: link to a weed and Gladiolus reference
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Thu, Feb 5, 15 at 21:23

Norton is a system pig and their subscription rates are, well I wouldn't pay them.
I buy mine on sale - usually under $30 for 3 computers. As for bloat, well I don't have those problems, never did.
Everyone has their opinion on which AV works for them. I try to respect everyone's decision or view on what and why they use it. If someone's happy, who am I to say otherwise?
See the link below. I started the list in 2005 & try to keep it updated. I use AntiVir Personal Edition on my laptop since it's only me using it.

I don't grow it, but I've heard BLUE FOR YOU can get quite tall, 6'7" as per HMF.
Here is a link that might be useful: Blue for You on HMF

The poor tiny band rose that got shaken out of its pot in the box managed to pull through as dry as it had been. There was no plastic bag or anything to protect it and it looked like all the roots were dried to death. The stem was still green so I did what Kim said and soaked it and then planted it in the best soil I had. It was slow to go and lost the smallest cane, but it lived and now is growing right along.
I've heard of trees with cones of mulch too high on the trunk getting rot and fungus and wondered will higher air temperatures do this to roses? Is it two different situations entirely?

I do mound my bare-root roses,but I had problems in the past one year with awful disease and fungus,so now I use pieces of styrofoam and wine corks to surround the baby canes, held in place with sticks, mulch,dirt,etc,in order that only in-organic material is in direct contact with the canes.


It was a lucky find and I'm happy you were able to enjoy some rose shopping. I thought the prices were good for the size of the plants. I agree with you that it reminds me of the old days and I was enjoying that part of it. So different than modern garden centers with recorded bird songs and dog sweaters. Not that dog sweaters are a bad thing, but I like more plants and seeds rather than other things taking their place in the store.
Remember when you pushed the carts on gravel and through puddles. I appreciate the cement paths but the old crunchy sound of the wheels on the gravel was fun too.
I remember our old local nursery and when the wife of the big name car dealership would come in she would bring 2 gardeners to follow along behind her with carts so she wouldn't have to handle the plants. She hated the gravel because of her nice shoes. I still remember her lavender tinted white hair. I also remember the Crystal Cathedral family coming in and I got to see one of their private gardens once on a plant delivery. That garden was peaceful and elegant and very grand with a large marble angel watching over it all. I heard that that property was divided up into pieces after it was sold and it made me sad to think that amazing garden is gone.

"Growing good roses" by Clayton Reddell, a book I've loved reading lately says the hole only needs to be max. 18" because the roots run more outward and than down so I would think a max 2 feet would be fine.
I order roses on fortuniana from Cool Roses, Nelson 's Roses and K&M roses and I've never paid more than $30.
I'd love to know what roses you are having great luck with in full sun here. Most of mine (David Austin) have been Grown in pots in late day shade until this past week when I planted several of them in the ground in full sun. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

There's the issue of the roots and then there's the issue of the nematodes.
It's been so long since I did my nematode research that I don't remember now how DEEP nematodes go.
I specifically remember the statement that the nematodes can travel 3 feet in any lateral direction over the course of a year which meant that in order to have a nematode free bed, there must be an exclusion zone of 3 feet (no plants) in all directions around the bed or the potential exists for the nematodes to reinfect the bed.
But I don't remember how deep they travel. I'm sorry. Hopefully you can find that information.
As for the roots themselves, own root rose roots vary while grafted rose roots depend on the root stock used. Some root stocks have tap roots and others have significant branching. If the grafted root stock is known, then the sort of roots to expect can be determined. For example, Fortuniana is a relatively shallow rooted root stock.
Good luck.
This post was edited by sandandsun on Tue, Feb 3, 15 at 22:32

Hi Alana
Just answering your question here as well as in a separate thread. Bulk ordering from Roses Unlimited is for 66 or more roses shipped to the same address, and there is a price break of 10% off the roses plus reduced shipping (that varies by zone). For me, the roses are shipped at $4/rose rather than $7/rose. For this many roses, it definitely adds up.
It's a good excuse to get your friends and neighbors to join you on a rose order!
Cynthia






I've grown several from cuttings and they are tough as nails.
I also have several own-root. While not as large as the ones I have on Fort, they are vigorous and bloom a lot.