22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

I've lived with it on the two red rose bushes (maybe Lincoln?) that are about 15 years or older because they give such luscious, gorgeous, florist style red roses. Usually, I get tons of red roses despite this problem. That's why I'm not ready to dig them out if it is indeed rust or whatever it is. I think the Wisconsin winter was harder on all my bushes, although they all rallied back.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 7:17PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Well, sure. We all just have to decide what our own tolerance level is.

Shoot, I've pulled ALL the leaves off some blooms, and made bouquets using ferns for green. Worked for me. :-)

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 8:23PM
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DrPekeMom

I take my racquetball racquet to them and swat them out of the air. I look like a crazy person but it sure does add steps to my little fitbit counter thingy.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 6:53PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Some of the JB 's favorites in my garden are: PJPII, South Africa, & Beverly.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 7:07PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Oh soooo pretty.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 10:32PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely, Martin! I love my Elle too!

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 1:46PM
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andreark

Thanks Kim, for the 'oh poor baby'.

And Jerijen and Aqua for the suggestion about Sweet Chariot. I will keep trying to find a place to buy it. It certainly is beautiful.

andreark

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 2:25PM
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roseseek(9)

You're welcome, Andrea. Email Burling. I'm pretty sure she offers it or can find it for you. International Herald Tribune is another violet rose that flowers its ever-loving head off. It isn't as well scented as Sweet Chariot, but it's every bit as violet and a wonderful rose. Mr. Moore found early on that growing Sweet Chariot in smaller pots caused it to weep. He had a long, double row of heavily scented, hanging baskets of it lining the main walk at the nursery and he said that's when the rose told him its name. "Swing low, Sweet Chariot...". Planted in the open ground where the roots aren't restricted, it's much more upright and bushy. Kim

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 3:12PM
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madri_gw(5)

Any idea where I could buy flower carpet roses. Three years ago I got 4 of them at Walmart. I lost the amber and pink due to RRV. I loved the amber, was a prolific bloomer. I want to get an Amber and pink splash flower carpet roses. Could not find in any garden centers here around Cleveland. Could some one let me know where to get them.
Thanks, Madri

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 10:56AM
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monarda_gw

I think the Oso-easy roses look intriguing. The other day at a nursery I was tempted to buy 'Honey Bun', which I saw displayed with white lantanas (I think) and other low white annuals (in pots), and it was really beautiful. It's a pastel cream with flushes of apricot.

I think birds might trample plantings around their feeders, though. Or even eat the flowers. They eat the pansies in my front yard in early spring, to my great frustration and dismay. At first I thought it was slugs, till I caught them at it.

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 12:59PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

You've created quite the haven for the dear deer. LOL
I know, I know - deer are horrible for roses. Bad deer.
Carol

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 12:00AM
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tigerloveroses

Aha! Caught red handed!(or red hoofed)

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 1:58AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I have to agree with hoovb, that looks more like a scar than a gall. The galls I've seen were knobby looking protrusions and not depressions like yours is. Keep an eye on it and see if it grows or changes in any way.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 4:49PM
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Dinglehopp3r z7A. EastTN

Thank you both for your prompt responses. It probably isn't gall but just to make myself feel like I have done all I can to prevent a gall outbreak in my garden, I went ahead and took the offending rose back. When I was at the nursery yesterday I noticed they had 3 Young Lycidas left, & they let me swap it out for another of the remaining two. Since I won't have another day off for a bit and the nursery isn't that far away, I decided that the small chance of it being gall was scary enough to warrant the extra drive. I know myself and the constant worry I would have had over that little blemish would have driven me crazy. The YL specimen that I just returned home with is a little smaller than the first, but it will catch up to the other in time, totally worth not having to constantly second guess my decisions, I do that enough as it is!

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 5:23PM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

I believe in the right circumstance the 3 and 1 helped. Maybe it kept the blooms not getting chewed by bugs and leaves from getting bs . It is not worth the risk. I hope all the rain washed most of the poison thru. anyway here is a picture with Earth song and Champlain behind it. Viking Queen grows up the 3 trellis.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 2:32PM
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seil zone 6b MI

They look good, Sam! It's not that the 3 in 1 won't help it's that people have found that it's not as effective as using the right product specific to what you have. It's also in a way over kill because your using things you don't really need at the time.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 4:52PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Nice to see the deer are finally paying their way. :)
Carol

    Bookmark     July 29, 2014 at 6:17PM
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Hey, Steve, I love your deer stories too!! Have to laugh...I hate, hate, hate poison oak. I'm sooo allergic to it that it's frightening. Happy that your deer got rid of it at your place!!! Have a good one! :-)

This post was edited by dove_song on Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 16:21

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 4:20PM
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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

Thank you!!! I now know that my rose has potassium deficiency (I only recently realized it is NOT blackspot, as I had first assumed). Now to figure out how to add potassium...

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 1:40PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

You know what? When we began to look for Old Roses -- things we couldn't buy at the local chain nursery -- there were, like, two sources in the United States.

We've gone through a period of having many, many good nurseries, and a veritable banquet of rare roses to choose from. Now, we have lost nursery after nursery, and I by golly cherish the ones we have left.

I know the RVR people, a little. Not enough to call them my best friends, but enough to use first names, y'knowwhatimean? Nice folks. Keeping this nursery going isn't EASY.

I order a rose once in a blue moon, because most of what I'm growing ain't in commerce. When I DO order, RVR is where I usually go. The plants they've sent me have always been good ones. I have certainly never seen one that was insect-infested.

The complaints here astonish me.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 1:31PM
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jacqueline9CA

Certainly the post which started this thread appears to be suspect, as it is the one and only post ever from that person, and whoever it is has not further participated in this thread. Why would anyone do this?

Coincidentally, I was at RVR yesterday morning. We were visiting relatives in Ashland, OR. I wanted to get 'Perle D'or' for a neighbor who was taking care of our cats while we were gone. Turned out that RVR was only 10 minutes from where we were, so I called them and they had it. We showed up at 8AM to pick it up. Lovely place - a house and acreage on top of a hill, beautiful gardens. Three people helped us, including the owner. Lovely, healthy blooming band. All the way home it rode with us in the air conditioned car. When we stopped for any length of time I put it in the cooler. Got home safely, and my neighbor was ecstatic.

Jackie

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 1:33PM
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andreark

Thanks again both of you. I HATE THIS D______ED HEAT!!!
(Probably not as much as my babies do.) PJP has been the
most beautiful and best flowering and fragrant rose. Now he's a burned out mess.

andreark

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 6:20PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Don't worry. He'll recover!

I'm so used to that pattern of salts in my foliage here, I almost don't see it anymore. It's what happens when a garden is irrigated by water like ours here, and there is no rain.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 1:19PM
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neemoiler

If you pour liquid rose and flower killer on the ground around the roses, according to instructions, you won't get any significant chewing at all. Why wait? You can also buy Imidacloprid (active ingredient in Bayer product) and mix a solution yourself, instead of paying a lot of money for the pre-mixed stuff.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 6:49PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

As stated they are sawfly larvea (Rose Slugs)
Kill em if you pick them off the bush because they can climb back up on the bush...

I did a experiment not long ago and I watched 3 different rose slugs climb back up on to the bush after being placed away from the bush...

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 9:34AM
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sidos_house

Pam, that's what we have too. Until your husband can get to everything, maybe you could walk the perimeter with a bunch of baggie ties and pegging hooks and scraps of fencing? And just make do up as far as you can reach safely? That's how I make repairs. Perhaps tacky, yet pretty effective. Again, best wishes!

Ingrid, I look at your roses and can help but noticing how well foliated they are. You should see some of my roses ... almost naked.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 7:15PM
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socks

I've had the same experience with what I also assume is raccoons since I see them often enough. They dig around the very base of the rose bush, quite deep. I've even had them dig deeply around sprinkler PVC. Must be earthworms there.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 7:26PM
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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Yes, I agree with that. They could have some fertilizer burn, but I think the problem is mostly heat related. These are the dog days of summer.

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 3:03PM
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roseseek(9)

There are probably nutrient deficiencies involved due to the extreme heat and the water stresses which occur during it, no matter how much or frequently you water. During this mess, the prime directive is just keeping the blamed things alive. I have not fertilized at all, nor has anything other than plain old Department of Water and Power terrible water been sprayed. Mine are frying like mad, but there is nothing to be done about it until these conditions improve. Kim

    Bookmark     July 30, 2014 at 3:41PM
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