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You've created quite the haven for the dear deer. LOL
I know, I know - deer are horrible for roses. Bad deer.
Carol

Aha! Caught red handed!(or red hoofed)

I have to agree with hoovb, that looks more like a scar than a gall. The galls I've seen were knobby looking protrusions and not depressions like yours is. Keep an eye on it and see if it grows or changes in any way.

Thank you both for your prompt responses. It probably isn't gall but just to make myself feel like I have done all I can to prevent a gall outbreak in my garden, I went ahead and took the offending rose back. When I was at the nursery yesterday I noticed they had 3 Young Lycidas left, & they let me swap it out for another of the remaining two. Since I won't have another day off for a bit and the nursery isn't that far away, I decided that the small chance of it being gall was scary enough to warrant the extra drive. I know myself and the constant worry I would have had over that little blemish would have driven me crazy. The YL specimen that I just returned home with is a little smaller than the first, but it will catch up to the other in time, totally worth not having to constantly second guess my decisions, I do that enough as it is!

I believe in the right circumstance the 3 and 1 helped. Maybe it kept the blooms not getting chewed by bugs and leaves from getting bs . It is not worth the risk. I hope all the rain washed most of the poison thru. anyway here is a picture with Earth song and Champlain behind it. Viking Queen grows up the 3 trellis.

They look good, Sam! It's not that the 3 in 1 won't help it's that people have found that it's not as effective as using the right product specific to what you have. It's also in a way over kill because your using things you don't really need at the time.

Nice to see the deer are finally paying their way. :)
Carol

Hey, Steve, I love your deer stories too!! Have to laugh...I hate, hate, hate poison oak. I'm sooo allergic to it that it's frightening. Happy that your deer got rid of it at your place!!! Have a good one! :-)

This post was edited by dove_song on Thu, Jul 31, 14 at 16:21

You know what? When we began to look for Old Roses -- things we couldn't buy at the local chain nursery -- there were, like, two sources in the United States.

We've gone through a period of having many, many good nurseries, and a veritable banquet of rare roses to choose from. Now, we have lost nursery after nursery, and I by golly cherish the ones we have left.

I know the RVR people, a little. Not enough to call them my best friends, but enough to use first names, y'knowwhatimean? Nice folks. Keeping this nursery going isn't EASY.

I order a rose once in a blue moon, because most of what I'm growing ain't in commerce. When I DO order, RVR is where I usually go. The plants they've sent me have always been good ones. I have certainly never seen one that was insect-infested.

The complaints here astonish me.

Certainly the post which started this thread appears to be suspect, as it is the one and only post ever from that person, and whoever it is has not further participated in this thread. Why would anyone do this?

Coincidentally, I was at RVR yesterday morning. We were visiting relatives in Ashland, OR. I wanted to get 'Perle D'or' for a neighbor who was taking care of our cats while we were gone. Turned out that RVR was only 10 minutes from where we were, so I called them and they had it. We showed up at 8AM to pick it up. Lovely place - a house and acreage on top of a hill, beautiful gardens. Three people helped us, including the owner. Lovely, healthy blooming band. All the way home it rode with us in the air conditioned car. When we stopped for any length of time I put it in the cooler. Got home safely, and my neighbor was ecstatic.

Jackie

Thanks again both of you. I HATE THIS D______ED HEAT!!!
(Probably not as much as my babies do.) PJP has been the
most beautiful and best flowering and fragrant rose. Now he's a burned out mess.

andreark

Don't worry. He'll recover!

I'm so used to that pattern of salts in my foliage here, I almost don't see it anymore. It's what happens when a garden is irrigated by water like ours here, and there is no rain.

If you pour liquid rose and flower killer on the ground around the roses, according to instructions, you won't get any significant chewing at all. Why wait? You can also buy Imidacloprid (active ingredient in Bayer product) and mix a solution yourself, instead of paying a lot of money for the pre-mixed stuff.

As stated they are sawfly larvea (Rose Slugs)
Kill em if you pick them off the bush because they can climb back up on the bush...

I did a experiment not long ago and I watched 3 different rose slugs climb back up on to the bush after being placed away from the bush...

Pam, that's what we have too. Until your husband can get to everything, maybe you could walk the perimeter with a bunch of baggie ties and pegging hooks and scraps of fencing? And just make do up as far as you can reach safely? That's how I make repairs. Perhaps tacky, yet pretty effective. Again, best wishes!

Ingrid, I look at your roses and can help but noticing how well foliated they are. You should see some of my roses ... almost naked.

I've had the same experience with what I also assume is raccoons since I see them often enough. They dig around the very base of the rose bush, quite deep. I've even had them dig deeply around sprinkler PVC. Must be earthworms there.

Yes, I agree with that. They could have some fertilizer burn, but I think the problem is mostly heat related. These are the dog days of summer.

There are probably nutrient deficiencies involved due to the extreme heat and the water stresses which occur during it, no matter how much or frequently you water. During this mess, the prime directive is just keeping the blamed things alive. I have not fertilized at all, nor has anything other than plain old Department of Water and Power terrible water been sprayed. Mine are frying like mad, but there is nothing to be done about it until these conditions improve. Kim

Hi Carol,

The pollination germination studies were not for applying the pollen to the flower, but to determine, using a microscope, whether a certain pollen is fertile.

Whether you pull or cut off the anthers is probably just a personal preference. If you are planning on using the flower that you removed the pollen from as a mother, I would expect that cutting would possibly be better as I assume that pulling could slightly damage the hip surface and could be a potential point for fungus entry. I use tweezers and pull the anthers off.

My rose hybridizing information is at:
http://home.roadrunner.com/~kuska/

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

Thanks Henry!
I'm going to check out your info.
Carol

I think the whole problem here is that we are trying to compare apples to oranges. HT's and Shrub roses are two different classes for a reason. If you are expecting HTs to grow and bloom in the same manner as Shrub roses then you surely will be disappointed. Same is true the other way around. If you are expecting Shrub roses to give you the large beautifully formed blooms of an HT you'll be disappointed too. You can not compare them to each other. That's unfair to both classes. In my experience if you try to even compare one HT against another you come up perplexed. EVERY variety of rose is DIFFERENT. They each have their own habits and no two are alike. You need to just enjoy and appreciate each one for it's own unique characteristics.

I like this thread. It's one of the best so far. It has heart and soul, you can feel people's love and passion about their shurb roses and HTs. It has carried out many wonderful rose photos, it's very educational for gardeners all ages. HRose, you might need to send Kate a bottle of Canadian wine, I am sure she will say hello again. :-)
Cheers

I would do exactly what Diane said. I don't know where you are precisely but you should have a good 90 days left before your first frost and that should be plenty of time for them to settle in before winter.

I am in the process of digging up 30 roses, including large teas because of construction happening in my yard. It's not that hard. If you have a spot, just make sure you have that spot read, hole dug before you take it out of the old spot. If you are keeping them in pots for awhile, put the pots in the shade and keep them hydrated. You may lose some leaves or buds, but they should be ok.

Just regular little black buggers.

andrea

Oh dear...I saw ants in my potted roses this morning. This is the first time we've had ants prancing about rose plants. I am going to try the cinnamon sticks method. Can I grind up the cinnamon sticks and sprinkle them across various pots? The cinnamon sticks found in Indian stores are potent (since it is used quite often in our cooking).

Thank you, rose friends, for the great advice!

This is what my 4 year old Peace looks like today. The colors are much stronger than usual.

This is what a Peace bloom looked like on 7/20. The colors were a bit softer.