22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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lettyozzy

Thanks everyone for the advice! I did contact Jackson and Perkins and they will be sending me another one :)

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seil zone 6b MI

I would still plant this one and see what it does. It seems to have 4 big healthy canes on it!

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

The Alnwick Rose is so beautiful, old fashioned, and elegant looking. Ahhhh another one for the wishlist this year lol.

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KarenPA_6b

What a gorgeous thread! I love them all. Every rose is a beauty! I have never known Marchesa Boccella but after seeing your pic, Pat, I wish I have it grown in my garden. What a rare treat!

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Hey Marlorena. Oh it is just a slang word for "Canadian", at least in the modern sense. Sort of when some people may call Americans "Yanks or Yankees" etc.

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Marlorena(Z8-9 England)

..yeah...thanks JJ...I looked it up on Urban Dictionary.... I had been thinking it was maybe a First Nation term.. something like that... excuse my ignorance here on this...
...it sounds rather sweet actually...

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kittymoonbeam

Pink GAA is a great plant. It will keep blooming all season and the shape of the plant is beautiful and full.

Sister says I should have planted enchanted evening in that place but it's happy by PJPII so I'm not messing with it!

Savoy Hotel and Quietness look so pretty. I wonder if they would be happy in a half barrel. I worry that the tree roots will eventually take over if I planted in the soil. My barrel is sitting on a large round stone to keep roots from coming in the drain holes. That's what happened before when it was under another tree. That tree's gone and I got this new flowering tree. If I have to rake leaves then I want flowers. I have lavender and white roses under the pink crepe myrtle and so I thought to reverse it for the other.

If I had a magic wand I'd have a pale pink raubritter that re blooms like iceberg!

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Seil, is Quietness thorny or BS prone? Would it be good in a vase?
Nippstress, is Savoy Hotel thorny or BS prone? How's vase life?
Both of these roses sound so tempting. Thanks in advance for info.

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redc22(9)

I live in the Bay Area and I completed pruning last week.

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catspa_NoCA_Z9_Sunset14

I started pruning the day after Christmas here in Livermore, as usual. The frosts we get are not likely to be severe enough to damage roses though they will knock down unprotected, tender plants like nasturtiums and pelargoniums.

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I second to Dandylioness style. This is also the look I am going for. I have planted a few climbers over the fence as well. I hope it will be as beautiful as the pic.

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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

IMHO, if you really want Jasmina,you ought to give it a try. On HMF, it is listed as being hardy to zone 9b. There is no "heat tolerance" rating given, but among the comments, the only thing I can see that addresses the heat tolerance issue is a comment by a poster who says that his one-year-old plant, in hot, dry, difficult soil, wasn't thrilling him. Kim responded to this by pointing out that, under these conditions, many a great rose would indeed flounder,plus, one year is just not enough time to see what a rose can do! Difficult, dry soil can be amended and mulched to improve it dramatically,btw. And, worse come to worse, you ARE in the USA, where as far as I know there are no serious problems with Rose Replant "disease",so if it winds up being totally unconvincing, replacing it with something else shouldn't be too big of a deal.
Might I ask, where did you read that this rose can't really tolerate heat ? regards, bart

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Very interesting, with some beautiful roses that I gather are not available here.

Ingrid

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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Seil ...

'François Rabelais' has been a solid plant for me. It does slow down a bit during the hottest part of the summer, but not for long.

Ingrid ...

Many of the roses on Maurice's site were once available here. We lost the availability of so many roses in the last several years.

Smiles,
Lyn

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roseseek(9)

The color is beautifully saturated, bluegirl, which is the one thing I've always enjoyed about it. McGredy seemed to love those colors as evidenced by his Orangeade, Trumpeter, Sherry, Brown Velvet and a ton of his other "fry your retina" colors. Here, as with many of his roses, it tends to be rather "vigorous". I don't know what to tell you to expect in Texas, but I've enjoyed it. Kim

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bluegirl_gw

Yes, "fry your eye", indeed! I love the Orangeade I got last spring. It makes me almost laugh each time it's in bloom--it's so outrageously, screamingly, unashamedly, blacklight -poster, ORRRRAAANNNGGE!!! Like a wildflower rose.

Glad to hear COB is vigorous, at least in CA. It's one of those I've looked at for years, but never read any posts re. it. Thanks for the info.

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shopshops

Sigh!!! such beauty. Googling the Bernstein Rose now. Golden Buddha is a deep yellow, but it stays short. It's available from Rogue Valley Roses as a band. I bought one last year. Happy Child is supposed to be a smaller Austin that is a pale yellow. I have not grown this one myself. There are lots of pics of it on the internet.

Nanadoll thanks so much for the inspiration that your garden is .I got Ascot rose Mauve/red .(Sorry a little off thread for good reason) from Palantine due to your pictures and it shot up to a 7 foot wonder covered in blooms in only 6 months!! Pleased to see you posting again.

Best wishes in your search NVL4.
Shops

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Thank you so much, Shops. I've had a ball the last few weeks posting again (or over posting). I hope you can find Bernstein-Rose being sold somewhere--perhaps, Heirloom or Hortico (where I got mine). Diane

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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Did anyone continue Lois Hole's greenhouses in Alberta?

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onewheeler(Z5 N.S.)

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I need to sit down here some night and comb the internet for rose suppliers. Time is a premium right now. I should have started looking in November when life was quieter.

I just moved into this house last Jan. I was able to go to my old garden and dig to my hearts content. I managed to bring at least 25 roses with me and have tried to start some cuttings but of course the rose lust never ends. I have grown at least 500 roses in the last decade and I still have not tired of their beauty.

Valerie

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jacqueline9CA

Christopher, I think you have put your finger on it - it is all about gardening styles, not what actual roses you use. My HTs are intermixed with old roses because I like it that way. I let them grow way more wild than someone with them in a formal bed would.

Jackie

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

ratdogheads makes a good point about some of the Austins having modern-looking foliage. I was very disappointed when I saw the foliage of The Dark Lady. Fortunately this rose was bright red in my garden and I was rather happy to see it deteriorate in the drought so I could take it out.

The point that a few others have made about appearance being more important than origin is one I totally share. Everything should blend together in one area and that matters a lot more than whether it's a noisette next to a hybrid tea. What's most important to me is whether I love that particular rose and just have to have it in my life.

Wonderful pictures, everyone, and they add much to the discussion.

Ingrid

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krikit

I'm glad to find this thread as I've been wanting a nice red fragrant rose. I've been considering Firefighter but don't like to spray chemicals. Pat_Bama, do you spray yours? and if not, where are you located? I'm in East TN.

Thanks,
Frances

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pat_bamaz7

Frances, I'm midway between Huntsville & Birmingham. I do spray my HTs with fungicide for blackspot as needed...usually several times a season. Blackspot on Firefighter had previously been controlled with minimal spraying, but blackspot was worse than usual with most of my roses last year. I probably sprayed Firefighter monthly, and it was still frequently spotted. It never quit blooming because of it, but lost some foliage and what it didn't lose often didn't look so great.

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

That is a lovely combination, James. Can you show us more of your garden? Diane

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susan4952(5)

Amazing

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HerdingCats(9/Sunset 20)

Toolbelt, what a neat idea. I may find a quiet corner somewhere and do just that. I do need to put in some trees for shade in the pastures...and this is not much more work at all to do. Hmmmm. Thanks!

Thegarden, thanks for the welcome back. It's been a while, and I'm glad to be here for sure. I just am so excited about what I can see for this place...indeed a bit of heaven. I absolutely have photos, and will be taking more as things progress.first priority is the shop conversion into a barn for my horses...indeed want them home ASAP. But that is about half done, and spring is looming...so I've been dreaming about getting the front yard done. And the veggie garden too.

Diane, it got pretty bad in Los Angeles for me. I acquired a dangerous stalker on top of everything else, and it was always the plan to come to Oregon eventually...and the housing market did very well by me...so here I am.

Btw...please forgive the occasional typo and strange wording...I'm on my phone and its both difficult to type on as well as autocorrect believes it knows the words I'm using. Sigh.

It's going to be my little bit of heaven...My nieces and nephew are nearby and its been just wonderful to be close to family and be part of their lives. Nephews basketball team just won their division championship and I was there. Oldest niece is taking riding lessons with my new trainer, and my littlest niece loves to come to the farm and go wandering...attended by the dogs. Brother, nephew and I are doing the renovations ourselves...and Sister in law loves the peace and quiet when I have her family here. Lol.

In re New Dawn, yes I'm aware she might take the fence down. She'll be in a place where that is acceptable if it happens...but I'm hoping I will be able to keep on top of it/her to prevent that. And that's the reason she's not at the corner of the house or garage or barn...lol.

Have a great day!

Best
Herding Cats

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toolbelt68(7)

Glad you liked the suggestion. One thing to keep in mind is; the dogwoods don't like things laying on top of their roots. Also very little can grow under them. So make sure you lay any patio stones/bricks, etc down around the swing before the trees get big.

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bethnorcal9

Oh Andrea, you're going to have fun this yr!! I live up in the Sierra foothills where it's a bit colder than your area. I actually have a lot of roses blooming now, due to the unusually warmer weather. But I fully expect it to start getting colder next month and they'll slow down again. In my area the blooms usually start popping out in late March to early April and by the end of April they'll be in full force. I'm really anxious to see them all blooming again.

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jacqueline9CA

Andrea, what kind of roses do you have? Are they all hybrid teas?

My tea roses have already been blooming for a month. They always start slowly in Jan, then gradually build up to a large Spring flush, then bloom gently for the rest of the year, sometimes even forgetting to stop booming in Dec.

My china roses have also been blooming for a month already.

The banksia is usually next - just beginning to show some buds.

So, it depends on what kind you have - if you would like earlier bloom, you might look into getting some teas and chinas. Where in the SF Bay area do you live? I live in San Rafael.

Jackie

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