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Pembroke, I'm just down the freeway from you and I have 2 of this rose. They're about 4yrs old now, both are own root and are just now coming into their own. The early years were full of spindly canes and slow growth but this year they are really taking off, full of nonstop buds. They are in full sun and get fed once a month with Mills Magic mix or rosetone. I had to cut them down to about a foot tall after this winter. That said, it's not a huge rose, mine are 3x3 very full plants right now. HTH
I have 2 own root PJP2 roses and struggle to keep them below 6 feet. Mine grew 3 feet in the first year and is now in its 4th year. They repeat quickly with large blossoms,around 4-6 inches across and with a high petal count. I live in USDA zone 9 about half way between San Francisco and Yosemite National Park in California. Roses begin to bloom here in late March to early April and continue to around the middle of December- a very long growing period. This is the best white hybrid tea that I have ever grown, and I have grown quite a few. Its a shame that it doesn't perform better in other areas as it is a truly magnificent rose here.
FWIW -- Some years ago, in another drought cycle (tho, one less lengthy, and less-severe than the current one) we did buy and use silicon granules.
We found them to be most-effective if used when planting bare root roses, because the [completely hydrated] silicon chunklets could be evenly distributed through the soil.
(NOTE: DO NOT MIX DRY GRANULES IN THE SOIL, AND THEN PLANT IT, AND WET IT. The granules increase asonishingly in size, when fully hydrated.) They can actually push the whole plant right out of a bed, or a pot.
If you want to add them to an established planting, you can "drill" a narrow hole close to the plant, and drop in just a few granules.
When used optimally, the granules really DID make a difference when a bed of roses went un-watered. This observation, when a section of an automated watering system failed, un-noticed.
We found that fine feeder roots really did attach themselves to the hydrated silicon chunklets, and thus were able to suck water from them.
But whether or not they make a difference in a three-year or more drought? That's difficult to say.
Over time, the granules became difficult to find locally, AND more and more expensive. We took to using them ONLY for small, potted, own-root plants -- and finally stopped using them altogether.
If you have a very large rose garden, they may be helpful, but you will need to have very deep pockets.
They are not talking about what is known as water crystals. This is about silicates such as discussed in this earlier thread.
http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg030010308429.html
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
I'm not sure what your picture is supposed to be showing that pertains to BS and missing leaves. What I see is a beautiful rose with many leaves, including new leaves, and lots of gorgeous blooms.
So what is the problem?
If you are asking what to do about BS, get some Bayer Garden Disease Control for Roses, Flowers, and Shrubs (get that name--NOT one of the other Bayer products)--at Lowes or online. Buy a small sprayer container for about $20 -- I got mine at Home Depot but other similar stores probably also carry them. Follow Bayer's directions carefully, but make sure you watered the roses deep and well the day before, and pick an early morning time for spraying, before the breeze picks up and swats you in the face with fungicide.
Spray with that once or twice at 10 day interval, and probably you will have killed the BS. And with really hot weather coming, you may not have any more BS attacks until cooler weather in the Fall becomes more conducive the BS.
But based on your pic, I'd say keep on watering your rose and enjoy it!
Kate
Oh, Dr. Henry, you tell me there is so much more for me to worry about, more even than a sweet and willing gardener who accidentally uses RoundUp on my roses. I do not even like to view the space where 400-500 beautiful roses once lived and bloomed in my garden and now twigs of memory and dying leaves abound.
If I had any other diseases to combat other than those I already know,I most likely would consume a bottle of RoundUp. It's just too much for my non-intellectual, non-scientific, right-brain mind.
Thanks, seil, you enabler! Scrumptious color.
Your rose porn has made me add Valencia back to my list of "must haves." :-)
(This past spring I had Valencia in my order cart at Edmunds and swapped it out for Julia Child. However, I will say that Julia has bloomed non-stop so far this summer.)
Chris
No zone, no close-up of stamen, stem, bloom, no idea. You should give much more information than what is given. I don't want a dinner invitation, just enough information to try to help you with your rose question. They certainly do not appear to be hybrid tea roses from where I sit, but they could be some kind of shrub or China, etc.
His original post seemed to indicate that he was in Zone 5 -- HOWEVER, yes. We'd need to see more close up images of the roses -- and if there's anything known about what sort of roses they are, that would be helpful.
That said, I see blooms on the left, and blooms on the right. A close look at those would be helpful.
Without more info, we can't help much.
When I said 'tug' on my bush, I was gentle. When we originally planted it, it seemed to be moving more even though it was planted deep as we could go. I was just checking to see if over the last 7 weeks since planting--it had gotten sturdier whereas it wouldn't move at all, so I was gentle; and it still moves a little bit. That wasn't the issue though--it was the brown speckles/spots on a number of branches.
I have balling as well when it rains but it seems to be the rain itself damages the roses. Part of my hedge is under the roofline and those flowers don't do that. It's only the ones in the open. I just pruned it back a good bit to help with this.
Never had great luck with own-root bands in my zone. Have grafted JD and JC, to trellises. They have both come back well from severe winter damage and prune to 18". JD does present light flush of dusty mildew early spring , don't ignore it, which is easily remedied with Daconil. They are my showiest presentations and worth any inconvenience.
Good luck with whatever method you take to care for your Babes -please keep us posted as to results .My only option is to place the own-root into the ground in the fall. I lost 3, grew 3. Poor odds. Interestingly survivors were minis.
If you would consider another color, I really do love both 'Lamarque' (shown above, and below) and also 'Reve d'Or.' They are Tea Noisettes, and I think should do well for you.
In ordinary years, my coastal strip of SoCal isn't warm enough to make yellow Tea Noisettes (such as 'Crepuscule') happy -- but THIS year we are breaking heat records. They like that!
Red equal Fields of the Wood. It will do well in your area. I have it pillared in the southeast USA. Not all reds are reds and not all reds will pillar - Fields of the Wood will. It is AKA Kocher Red or Rhode Island Red. Great rose.
This post was edited by patricia43 on Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 14:22
I have this one in my zone 4 pocket in the front yard, and as all the Lim Easy Elegance roses are for me, it's healthy and hardy without a problem for me. The repeat bloom is decent - mine is only two years old and not into its full maturity - but not continuous blooming or quite as prolific as other Lim shrubs like Sweet Fragrance in the same bed. I'm glad I didn't count on it staying 2 feet tall, as it is starting to creep up to 3 feet even with the drastic pruning from the hard winter. I wouldn't treat this as a groundcover type rose like the "drift" series, but it's fairly contained so far.
The color is at its nicest in the cool weather, as you can see from last June's picture below. In weather like the 100 degrees we have today, it's kind of a washed-out coral pinkish color. Still a nice rose, but not one that's as eye-catching as other roses in that bed.
Cynthia
I like the idea of donating a rose in honor of a beloved decedent, provided the donor would have some reasonable choice of variety.
I live in Roanoke and have contacted the director of the project. We discussed various option and I invited her to my place for the fall flush so she can see what sorts of roses do well here. She doesn't seem especially knowledgeable about roses and became excited when I mentioned Noisettes, the southern/USA rose. The old garden was exclusively Hybrid Teas and modern Floribundas and thus high maintenance. The volunteer brigade that looked after it has dissipated and RRD killed off most of what was left. She is very open to other alternatives. I look forward to the project. I also emailed her, throwing out some ideas. We'll see....