22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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farmerduck

Yes, it is new dawn. Be prepared as this one will grow and grow and grow....

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 4:08AM
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braverichard (6a, North MO)

That's good news. I need something that will grow fast and be cane hardy in my zone to permanently smother my pergola!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 12:18PM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

Do not know where you are located, but in hot summer, dry climates, we water early in the morning. My plants are watered at 5 a.m.. When I hose off my roses ( leaves are the target) , this is done early in the morning too.. But not at 5 a.m.

Lynn

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:30AM
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bryant4125

Ah I completely blanked on my location, I'm in Seattle, WA. The hottest days of the week are behind me now and the daily high will be in mid-high 70's until next Wednesday when it drops to a high of 67 with chance of rain.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:54AM
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magneato

@seil: What would I need to do to splint it if I find a crack (I still haven't, but I didn't look at it under a microscope)? Interestingly, this morning, a few of the buds that existed yesterday bloomed out, so the cane mustn't be totally sunk. Thank goodness!

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 11:17PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I use popsicle sticks and floral tape to splint around the crack. It doesn't always work but is worth a try. If the blooms have perked up and opened I would just leave it staked and let it finish its bloom. Then when you go to dead head take a hard look at the whole cane and see if there is damage and cut below the damaged area.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:52AM
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KarenPA_6b

You are absolutely right, Seil. I went back to Aldi a month later and found them on clearance for 97cents each. I thought that I gave one a try. So I bought Kordes Perfecta, a huge plant at that and planted it. It never leafed out - the leaf buds were all dried out. It is not a good deal even at 97 cents. LOL.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:25AM
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fduk_gw UK zone 3 (US zone 8)

Somewhat amusingly, my Aldi Mr Lincoln, which is not Mr Lincoln, appears to be an older garden rose. Showing pink on its buds today so hopefully I shall be able to start working towards an ID soon. I don't mind it being an old rose, I like old toses, but I had actually bought it as a cutting ht! So much for that plan!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:30AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh, how sad! It's a real problem in very damp and humid places. I know, I get it too here on the big lakes.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 11:26AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Vasue, I am glad you received yours. I should receive mine today. I have to thinking about where to plant them at lunchtime...... :-)

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 4:19AM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

We're in the low 90's for the next few days - first continuous heat this year - so I'm going to let the roses rest up after their trip for a few days & aim for an overcast day to plant them out. If I see a break in the heat coming, will wait till then, for their sake, and mine!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 10:53AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

My guess is that that is former rose slug damage, but that the good predator bugs have already come along and finished them off for you. (I usually squish for a couple weeks before the good predator bugs show up.)

All I'd do now is pluck off the worst/ugliest of the damaged leaves and wait for the new leaves to show (because you are watering it better).

Don't worry--just get this poor plant all cleaned up and wait patiently for new growth. : )

Kate

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 1:24AM Thanked by Tessa Gee
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Tessa Gee

Thank you so much! I can't wait to get my garden all cleaned up!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 8:14AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Miracid contains lots of available iron and nitrogen. It doesn't do much to acidify the soil. 1/2 cup of plain sulfur per square yard will (after some months) lower the pH by one point. Nik recommends punching three holes 6" deep and filling with a mixture of iron sulfate granules and plain sulfur. He is a knowledgeable poster here.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 7:53AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thank you Michael, I was looking at ironite but I think I'll try Miracid instead. Used that eons ago before going organic. Forecasters are hinting at epic rains here and Roseraie D L'hay needs help now.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 8:09AM
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Donna R zone 6a

Thank you, Jackie. I will check it out today.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 6:41AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Check your local Home Depot for tall metal trellises. They aren't real fancy, but are fairly sturdy, and once the climber covers it, it won't matter if the trellis is fancy or not.

The Home Depot ones are cheaper than most of the ones I've seen advertised in various kinds of gardening catalogs. However, I have also bought 8 ft obelisks from a couple different places--they are all right, but do tend to start disintegrating after about 5 years. I've had to replace two of them.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 7:18AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Evie, be very careful with Neem Oil or any king of oil. NEVER spray oil on your roses if the temps are going to be any higher than about 75 degrees. The leaves will cook like they're in a deep fryer! Neem Oil should only be used in the very early spring or late fall when temps are cool.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 4:09PM
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bardamu_gw

Besides aphids early in the season, which were easy to remove, I hadn't spotted bugs. I'm used to looking for bugs under leaves, but I must have missed them thinking it was fungus or disease. I looked carefully at both plants and did not spot bugs yesterday or this morning. Hopefully their time is over for the year. Thanks all for the responses. I will keep an eye out for insects, keep the plant watered, and hope to see new healthy leaves start to fill the plants.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 7:10AM
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kublakan

Impressive. I like the bicolored one. Keep us posted.

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 3:45AM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Beautiful!

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 5:28AM
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bonny46(6)

Looks like you have some diseased/dead cane in there, too. I'd clean up the whole bush while you're at it.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 10:56AM
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kulrich8903

The flys are back I keep spraying and no new leaves. I think I lost them

    Bookmark     June 11, 2015 at 4:52AM
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roseseek(9)

There were reports of a very good (for the time), famous HT of Depression times which remained in gardens nameless, or given other names because the growers/gardeners hated President Hoover.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 4:57PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The story on "Happy Butt" was that the hybridizer wanted to name it after a dear friend named Gladys. Gladys said "Oh no, please do not!" So the hybridizer named the rose "Happy Butt". Repeat the name Gladys a few different ways to see why.

thonotorose, I have that rose also. I call it 'Jacsegra', which is the hybridizer's name for it.

My grandmother revered Hoover, because before he was a below-average President, he was head of a US agency that sent food to people in dire straits in Belgium at the end of WWI. My grandmother was close to the front lines and nearly stared to death. The food that Hoover had sent saved her life, or so she always said.

I have to say, that at least here, 'Fabulous!' deserves its exclamation mark.

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rabains
Marlolena.. I have golden showers which I grew as a bare root this March and looking forward to the pretty yellow roses. And I had no clue that it means something else too.. That's interesting
    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 8:40PM
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rabains

Marlorena.. I have golden showers which I grew as a bare root this March and looking forward to the pretty yellow roses. And I had no clue that it means something else too.. That's interesting

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 8:41PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Beautiful choice! I can't wait to see the pictures!

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 8:37PM Thanked by luvsflwrs
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Ditto on can't wait to see pics..

    Bookmark     June 10, 2015 at 8:40PM Thanked by luvsflwrs
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