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i live in overly sunny Las Vegas, and found that the first year, I do get the spider arms, but after the 2nd year, the plants became more upright.
Having moved to the new house and put the new garden together, I did find that the plants that made it into the ground too late in spring were more spidery. My landscaper did not finish with the irrigation system and pavers until mid May. but I still get some lovely roses, and it is almost Christmas:






I found resin barrel pots at Home Depot for $20 each. They're 22 1/2 inches in diameter across the top. I used them for the larger of my pot-pet Hybrid Teas. See link below, and pics of mine after planting roses and annuals in them.
:-)
~Christopher
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-22-5-in-Resin-Whiskey-Barrel-HDR-505742/203580708








I ended up deciding on an arrangement of curved trellis panels to encompass all the plants, and started trimming (again) before the weather went haywire here. Before our first frost, the rose to the far right had already put out enough new growth I was able to start training it! Since the first attempt was successful, I'll be able to gradually work my way across the arc next year and eventually have the roses eventually back under control (we hope). Will follow with pictures when the weather warms up a bit.

I don't know if you are familiar with the rose data base site called Help Me Find dot com slash roses or not but you can look up all manner of roses on there. I've added a link for Don Juan so you can see some pictures of how it grows. Take note of where the gardens are located so you can see how it will be in similar conditions to yours.
Here is a link that might be useful: Don Juan at HMF

I have a Don Juan on an arch. I am in Southern California and my plant is old.
It blooms great in heat, but mine only gets about 8 feet tall and puts out pretty much straight rather stiff growth. I am not sure I would be able to wrap it around a pillar unless it was a rather large pillar. Everyone that visits leaves chanting Don Juan to remember the name because they like it, but I think I would not pick it for wrapping like you are planning. Mine seems to love some pruning so trying the one cane at a time might give you an idea if it will work or if you need a different rose for the purpose

OK - this is my last comment on the rain. We have had 4 different storms come here in the last 5 days, which I love. We have 20 inches of rain so far since 7/1/2014, which is 200% of our "normal" YTD. So, it appears that I got my wish, and I will be quiet now in gratitude.
Jackie

The suggestion was made that the virus may be rose yellow vein virus.
The only published picture that I am aware of is at:
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/suppl/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN
Although the caption says: "âÂÂLedaâ rose infected with Rose yellow vein virus.", the article states: "Symptoms observed in the âÂÂLedaâ sample infected with PNRSV and RYVV (vein yellowing and chlorotic mottle in the apex of leaves) were not typical of PNRSV, so they may be caused by RYVV."
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN
I am aware of three pictures of RYVV infected leaves of three other roses. However, the source has not yet been published, and I have not received permission to show them. Do they look like this sample? Well, yes, no, and/or maybe. I do not mean one looks like it, one does not and one maybe looks like it. I mean one person may say they look similar, another person looking at the same pictures may say they are different, and a third person may say maybe - not positive.
Right now an answer as to whether the virus is visible under both warm and cool weather conditions (I feel) would be useful.
Here is a link that might be useful: link to picture
This post was edited by henry_kuska on Fri, Dec 19, 14 at 13:07






Usually this time of year is pretty damp and the roses shouldn't need extra watering. They are dormant so they're not using a lot of water anyway. They do need some water over the winter but if you get rain and snow that should be more than enough.
I wrapped the HTs in the front yard with burlap today--it was 51 degrees! A wrap a burlap prevents the canes breaking off at the bud union despite high winds and icing. Unlike mulch, I can still use burlap in the cold--around here it often freezes into a solid mass.