22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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Molineux(6b)

I grew Tiffany for many years in zone 7b Virginia. The blooms looked just like those in Sara-Ann's first picture and never smelled to me like apples. The fragrance was INTENSE. The dominant scent is Damask but with fruity and tea rose elements as well. It's offspring BELINDA'S DREAM expresses the fruity scent much more clearly, but smells like raspberries and not apples. However, all roses belong to the same family as apple and pear trees. Your nose could be sensitized to this particular scent, in which case most roses are going to have some apple-like tones in their fragrance profile.

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

No, I definitely ONLY smell apple with this one rose - whatever it is. :)
I got rid of Frederic Mistral because I smelled grass whenever I sniffed the blooms. Grass???
Comte de Champagne smelled like dog poop to me. That one's gone. LOL

I love, love, love damask scent and I also love, love fruity smells.

I must try to find Belinda's Dream because raspberry is my favorite scent by far. Makes me swoon. :)

I'm soooo looking forward to getting Tiffany!!!

Thanks!
Carol

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rross(NSW Aust)

I gave away Red Cross (Love's Promise), Camille Pissarro and Souvenir de la Malmaison because I couldn't smell any scent. I kept Hilde, hoping it would come good. It hasn't. And it's not just my nose at issue. Nobody got any scent from any of these. Red Cross now lives at a friend's place where it must be happier because it's finally scented - to everyone's nose. I wonder whether this is because the nights are colder where my friend lives.

The roses I have that are noticeably scented here would probably be overpowering there, but I'm not parting with them. They are: Angel Face, Fire Fighter, Ebb Tide, Old Fragrance, Jude the Obscure, Pope JPII and Nahema.

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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Quite an interesting discussion.

So what about roses that you buy from a nursery potted which are very fragrant, stay fragrant for the rest of the season and then come back the next year with no fragrance?

Last year I planted the following roses and they were all fragrant when I purchased them and put out fragrant blooms in my garden as well:

Oh My!
Arctic Flame

Then this year, I got the same flowers but zero fragrance regardless of what time of the day I sniff.

Any theories on what happened there?

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kingcobbtx9b

Glad to hear yours is doing well, I ordered one as well, mainly wanted to get me a Cardinal Richelu and with shipping it made sense to get 2 roses.

Neither of the two have done anything amazing yet, but thats likely in part due to being planted on the Texas coast in June....

Both are growing, had to transplant richelu due to not getting enough sun.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

I got mine as a discard from someone. Very pretty flowers but the plant has no vigor at all. Perhaps the rain will help.

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Facebook rosesare there any groups on Facebook that deal with roses?
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

The Rose, Flowers and Veggies Gardener's group--lots of posts from all over the world

Mad Englishman and Roses (specializes in DA roses)

Alexandra Farms--Fresh Cut Garden Roses

David Austin Roses

Tantau Roses

If you are into plumarias at all there is a Plumaria Addicts Group too. Lots of posts.

This post was edited by mustbnuts on Sun, Dec 14, 14 at 0:07

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jerijen(Zone 10)

The Heritage Roses Group,
And
The Gold Coast Heritage Roses Group

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msdorkgirl(11)

I've uploaded my first batch of photos taken for this project, but I do need to indicate size and scale as suggested in this discussion thread. I'll probably do a couple each time and tweak as I go along.

At the very least, this will help me establish my own database and keep my mind/time occupied for at least 6 months :)

Today, I'll be uploading information about:
1) About Face (Orange with Reverse)
2) Wild Blue Yonder (Fushia with yellow center)
3) Summer Love (Classic Yellow)

Here is a link that might be useful: About Face Pictures

This post was edited by msdorkgirl on Sat, Dec 13, 14 at 12:08

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roseseek(9)

Perfect! Thank you! So often we forget the plant itself has to also be attractive. Though many flower over a very long period, there are times when they aren't "colorful". And, there are roses which are just as pleasing as green plants as they are scented, color. Thank you! Kim

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seil zone 6b MI

It looks lovely on HMF but sadly it's not available in the States.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Snow is all the roses should need. It also has the great advantage that when a thaw comes, it automatically removes itself, so wet, cold stuff isn't around the roses to encourage fungal problems.

If you live in an area where temperatures below 20 without snow are practically unknown (like where I live) fancy cages are a lot more trouble than they are worth.

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seil zone 6b MI

Michael and Mad are both right, snow is the best insulator there is for a rose. However, if you want to protect the existing canes from wind damage you can still put the cages with the covers over them without disturbing the snow cover. The snow will protect the graft at the bottom and the cage will protect the upper canes. It's not fool proof but it can help.

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These Are A Few Of My Favorite Things. Raindrops on Carding Mill . . .
Posted by Sow_what? Southern California Inland
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

By the way Ingrid, looking at the interior photo you posted -- your color sense is so spot on. If you use those same instincts to create the new garden at the sunny side of your home, it will be beautiful.

jannike

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Marlorena(Z8-9 England)

All very nice...lovely photos everyone...and it's nice to see inside someone's home occasionally.... and not a television in sight...

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sara_ann-z6bok

Jackie, I am so glad that you, Beth and others are getting the much needed rain!

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MiGreenThumb

I am so glad you folks are finally getting your desperately needed rainfall!
I saw on the Weather Channel that it's quite the Low Pressure system.
Unfortunately, I'm sure there will be severe landslides in some areas.
Happy gardening!

Steven

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seil zone 6b MI

Best white HT with a strong fragrance i can think of is Pope John Paul II.

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kstrong

PJP II does not get that far open here. My guess would be Garden Party.

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iris_gal(z9 CA)

Sorry I have no pic of this combo. 'Royal Sunset' climber with 'Chicago Peace'. Scrumptous. The full-bodied soft orange of R.S. with the rose-pinks and apricoty tones of C.P. are truly made for one another.

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amandahugg(SS19 CA)

Remember, there are no Color Police. Plant it the way you like it. If you don't like it, you can change it. It's your garden to 'paint' so enjoy.

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kingcobbtx9b

I would suggest you try looking at Lady Banks roses. Banksia being the species name. They grow like crazy in just about anywhere in Texas. They do only bloom in the spring though.

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ffff(Calif. 9)

Amandahugg:
"Bur Bayse's Blueberry is a horrible hybrid. Why would you allow horrible hybrids even though they flower 90% more during the season and don't consume 90% of your garden?"

With the drought going on, and no fertilizer being applied, my Blueberry barely bloomed in May, and not at all after, but my R. palustris was in bloom until last week. Disregarding rootstocks, 67% of my species roses have some sort of repeat in garden conditions, but only about 60% of my horrible hybrids ever rebloom. I have California climate helping me, but still, I don't think the contrast is quite as stark as all that. :-P

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

great poem, bluegirl!!!!!

lark ascending, there are any number of roses that might be, the camera is extremely far from the flowers to make an exact ID.

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catsrose(VA 6)

I have a Zephy on Dr Huey. When the Dr first appeared, I was horrified and was about to whack off the sucker. But he looked so handsome with Zephy's pink that I decided to wait until they had finished blooming. Four years later, they are still doing their spring dance. They also blackspot and defoliate together, but by the time that happens, the hydrangea in front of them has leafed out and redirects the eye of the beholder.

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kingcobbtx9b

Thanks. In all honesty the roses weren't that hard to move. Except for the Lady Banks. The Vitex(Chaste Tree), bottlebush, Gardenias, and the Lady Banks about killed me though.

I would actually say the majority of my roses aren't modern. I have a few, but the majority are old or at least old style (David Austin).

I am glad Love Song didn't die on me, it literally took about 10 months of removing suckers. Of course I had let two big suckers grow for about 9 months before I realized they were suckers and not Love song.

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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Your rose bed looks gorgeous! I hope you continue to take pictures as they mature and keep blooming. Gosh I miss summer.

Michaela

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kingcobbtx9b

a close up, this was a week old bloom that had some heavy rains.

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SueKelly

Thanks Kingcobb, that is a lovely rose...reminds me of Diamond Jubilee which I have. I'm looking for an intense yellow/lemon...it's going between Outback Hero and City of Goulburn....one intense orange tones and the other pale orange/yellowy pink, so the colour needs to be homogenous to create the right effect. With all of the above suggestions I'm sure I'll get there in the end.

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