22,151 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
This is the second year for my Falstaff, and so far I'm loving it. It's not pink, but deep magenta, fading to purple (and a nice purple, not a sickly one). The flowers are durable in rain, the flowers nod, which I like (and which might help them from collecting water). So far, not much frying in the sun (although smaller flowers with the 90F heat). Biggest disappointment: almost no fragrance, but when detectable, it is old rose. First flush flowers were about 3". Flowers don't flatten out but keep this cupped form. It's starting to put out a second flush now when WS2K is busily frying its first flush in the sun and mildewing. Most remontant roses (i.e. hybrid teas) here put out a nice first flush, then a few miserable looking flowers in the heat if any, then another nice flush in the fall. Falstaff mildewed a bit this year. We don't get blackspot here. Photo bloom color is accurate.
In my tough climate, it takes a while for plants to grow. Planted in the spring of last year, it did nothing the rest of the year. This year the bush is very vigorous (like climber vigorous), upright, but
not stiff, and the new basals are almost as tall as the bush now. The leaves are matte and nicely formed, very old rose. Here's the first flush. I hope it gets all big and gangly.
Just needs more water -- on a regular basis.
Red growth is normal--means its healthy. The brown stuff could be from lack of water or too much fertilizer (more water to "cure" that). I'm serious--just water it more often and in a few weeks there should be some nice growth apparent.
Kate
And water deep, not just a surface wetting. Roses like at least and inch of water per week. So water it slowly for a long period of time about twice a week. In very hot, dry weather you will need to water even more often. If you water early in the morning you can hose them off too, leaves will have plenty of time to dry off during the day, but if you're watering in the evening then try not to get the leaves wet.
Epsom salts is rarely needed or useful. If there is magnesium deficiency, it shows in a particular pattern of yellowing, not in weak canes.
Many rose varieties are inherently floppy. They may outgrow it partly or completely. Stake the floppy canes and cut them back a bit, maybe 1/3, after blooming. They will grow thicker and stronger in a year.
We've had a lot of rain lately and that doesn't help because it adds a lot of weight to the blooms pulling them down. I have several that were covered in beautiful buds but as they opened and it kept raining they since laid down on the ground. Stake them up and leave them staked even after you dead head so the next batch of blooms will be better supported. There really isn't anything you can do until the plants grow and mature some more.
Yes, I got her again at Roses Unlimited's open house this year and she has doubled in size. she is in the sale roses they have listed and I may get another. Life's too short not to have your favorite rose! Another picture for your viewing pleasure.
oooh, thats a really nice one (fragrant Memory) and I've never even heard of it until now.
Heres my list (in order of most prolific)
Dick Clark (i've never had a rose bloom as much and repeat as quickly, its practically always in bloom)
Easy Does IT (this one too, its not as big a bush but it always has blooms)
Moonstone
Ingrid Bergman
Pope John Paul II
And not grandi or HT, but:
Belinda's Dream (shrub)
Dames De Chennoneceau (shrub)
Abraham Darby (shrub)
Sun Flare (floribuda)
Europeana (Foribunda)
Im shocked to see Queen of Sweden on this list, I love the rose, but mine is a very stingy bloomer. I just grafted her on to fortuniana however and I hope she does better on Fort. Seeing her on this list gives me hope though. :)
I don't think that's RMV because the pattern of yellow is irregular. The peony next to the rose has some discolored foliage as well. I think a maintenance person sprayed something along that wall. Since the front of the rose looks great, I wouldn't worry about it. Gardening in public spaces can be frustrating.
I just found out that the yard was sprayed but we were assured they protected the plants with cardboard before spraying. The peony next to the rose has some tough looking leaves too, and saw that last year after they sprayed. The leaves on the rose, even though they also got spray on it looked mostly yellow. It didn't appear that they even tried to protect anything last year! I was concerned it was a disease I didn't know about and wanted to be sure it wouldn't affect the other 3 roses. it's very frustrating when you ask them not to spray in the beds and they do so anyway
I'm guessing a pimpinellifoliae don't know which one yet. Okay never mind thorns are not right or leaves. Your rose has unique leaves that should place it in a family of roses. There is a site called Everyrose.com. They have an advanced search feature. Type in everything that you know about this rose. You might get lucky.
Thanks for the answers. I got seeds with no name of this rose from a garden society, The seeds were from northern Italy. I grow the rose in the east of Austria. The climate is zone 5, Vine is growing here. In most of the winters branches are frozen.
The rose looks tender, therefore I do not think that it is a rugosa. The biggest flowers are 4 cm in diameter. The flower has a little fragrant, It is a once year bloomer.
I know Pimpinellifolia quite well. My unknown rose has too differernt thorns and leaves. They do not smell like apples
I will try the site Everyrose
Hi! My husband just bought me my first tree rose today for our 10 th anniversary. I'm in zone 4. I'm not at all sure on how to winterized it! I'm new to the tree rose but am loving it! I don't know weather to plant it in the ground, leave it in a nice pot and bring it int the house or outside in the garage. I'm hoping some one can help me save this rose for many years of blooming. My e- mail is soaringwings55@yahoo.com. Thanks Jeanne
Jeanine, Don't put your email address here for safety reason. The only rose trees can be planted in the garden is Polar Joy, a super hardy rose tree. Other than that you have to bring it in the garage during the winter, and water it once a month. You're in zone 4, you might need to wrap it around with a sleeping bag or something even in the garage.
It's hard to believe, sometimes, what eats roses, until you see it with your own eyes. My double delight rose is setting buds and some are open. I couldn't figure out what was chewing rounded holes in a still developing bud, but then found the culprit a few days ago. Large black ants. Couldn't believe it. They must smell the rose and figure there is food up there.
Does anyone know how to make the pepper spray? I have been using cayenne pepper powder on my petunias, as we have groundhogs that are decimating them and also my lettuce plants. I am at wits end with them-they eat a ton. When it rains, you have to reapply it-that's the downside of the powder.
There were reports of a very good (for the time), famous HT of Depression times which remained in gardens nameless, or given other names because the growers/gardeners hated President Hoover.
The story on "Happy Butt" was that the hybridizer wanted to name it after a dear friend named Gladys. Gladys said "Oh no, please do not!" So the hybridizer named the rose "Happy Butt". Repeat the name Gladys a few different ways to see why.
thonotorose, I have that rose also. I call it 'Jacsegra', which is the hybridizer's name for it.
My grandmother revered Hoover, because before he was a below-average President, he was head of a US agency that sent food to people in dire straits in Belgium at the end of WWI. My grandmother was close to the front lines and nearly stared to death. The food that Hoover had sent saved her life, or so she always said.
I have to say, that at least here, 'Fabulous!' deserves its exclamation mark.