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roseseek(9)

Congratulations Terrance! Take a look at the link below for John Allen, a previously discovered double Arkansana. There is also R. Arkansana "Woodrow", a double form which I have grown, lost and would love to grow again. You can see it at this address, also on Help Me Find-Roses. Kim

Woodrow

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.43075&tab=1

Here is a link that might be useful: John Allen

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 12:45AM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

What a beautiful rose and look at all those buds! How wonderful! Congrats!

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 1:20PM
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henry_kuska

Ann attempted to describe the problems involved in trying to identify if a rose is infected with rose rosette virus. Another way of appreciating this is too see what percentage of plants that appear to have rose rosette virus infections actually are infected:

"Rose Rosette Disease, otherwise known as Rose Rosette Virus, is an ever increasing problem in Texas, particularly in the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. In 2013, the Texas Plant Disease Diagnostic Lab received thirty-one symptomatic samples of different rose varieties that were tested for Rose Rosette Virus. Of those thirty-one samples, ten returned with positives finds."

The above quote is from the following 2014 paper presented at a meeting.:

Title: "Attempts in extracting RNA from eriophyid mites in search for Rose Rosette Virus"
Authors: A. BRAKE (1), M. Giesbrecht (2), K. Ong (2)
(1) Texas A&M University, College Station, TX, U.S.A.; (2) Texas A&M AgriLife Extension Service, College Station, TX, U.S.A.
Abstracts published: Phytopathology 104(Suppl. 2):S2.2

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above meeting paper abstract

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 12:21AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Henry,
Interesting catch, I wonder if they kept track of where on the rose the mites were recovered.
Also take a look at page 11 of the abstracts and the abst on wheat streak mosaic. Dr. Jensen, now retired, told me a decade ago to watch what scientists found about diseases related to RRD as there would never be heavy funding for RRD research. His involvement was with WSM.

    Bookmark     July 10, 2014 at 9:00AM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

You mentioned using Jasmine to climb on the fence, but that you weren't sure about having to trim it every year. I have another suggestion you might like -- Type 2 Clematis. I have similar fencing in my yard, and also with the "pretty side" facing the neighbors. I bought a 7' X 100' roll of deer netting for very cheap, and nailed it against the posts (not the slats) of the fence. This made an almost invisible "trellis", and because it was attached to the posts on the backside of the fence, allowed a few inches of space from the slats. I also have some roses I'm training against the fence, but you can skip that part.

After weaving the first stems into the netting, all they needed was a little guidance as they grew to go in the direction I wanted. In a couple of years, they'll form a wall of leaves and blooms against the fence. And the Type 2 Clematis generally don't "need" pruning to continue blooming in late Spring and late Summer every year. You could also alternate Type 3 Clematis between them, since they bloom in the gap-time of the Type 2, but you'll have to label them so you know to prune them hard every Spring (they bloom on new wood).

These pics are from May and June, and the Clematis were planted only this year, but it gives you an idea of how easily they utilize the netting as a trellis. I'll have to take more pics to show how much the Clematis have grown already.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 2:32PM
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Bamadude01

Thanks peeps! This is very helpful and I appreciate all of the comments. I will post pics soon!

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 5:52PM
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boncrow66

Seril thanks for the advice! And Vasue thanks for ideas on how to get it in back of the SUV, sounds like you might has done this a few times :). I should be getting it this weekend and will get it in the ground as soon as possible and keep my fingers crossed it makes it! I'm a little nervous because she has it in a pot for the last few weeks and I'm not sure of its condition. Is My Girl a bushy rose bush?

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 2:05PM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Unfamiliar with My Girl - helpmefind turns up 4 - which do you suppose it is? (Yes, quite a few times, hardcore.)

Here is a link that might be useful: My Girl

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 2:38PM
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boncrow66

I got my Sunsprite at Walmart several years ago and it has been one of my best roses.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 8:30AM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Surprisingly, found pairs of Kordes' Golden Gate climbers & Belinda's Dream shrubs at Lowes this Spring. Much greater variety than in recent years. They were offering truckloads of floribundas & hybrid teas at intervals, mostly out of patent classics but some newer patented ones as well. By this time of year, rose deliveries mostly over (sigh). Still check them out any time I'm in town, hoping they'll happily surprise again.

Looking for a replacement Fragrant Cloud this year, a couple of nurseries carried poor & neglected choices. Stopped at Lowes & came away with a great specimen, as well as one of the Smooth Touch roses (Smooth Angel) for a high-traffic spot on the back deck. Very pleased with this year's roses from Lowes. Golden Celebration came from there years ago before local nurseries offered it & continues to excel.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 2:23PM
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linoh_31(6a)

Thanks for responding. The bottom leaves were paler than the later (top) sets of leaves but... the dark green veins only showed up after I sprayed a few days ago. Makes sense the cold wet soil could have created a deficiency. I still can't explain the veining issue.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 8:11PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Plants with iron deficiency normally have darker green veins against a paler background. I wonder if you just overlooked that when the early leaves grew in. Or maybe the lower leaves are just now starting to develop more chlorophyll.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 1:08PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

This depends on where you live. I personally would not use Miracle Grow. It's like crack for roses and that bloom comes with a price. I would use some good compost and organics in the soil..get that soil healthy. Cut anything off the rose that looks diseased or dead and hold off anything else until next spring..unless you live in a climate that prunes in the fall. Here in the Pacific Northwest we prune in the spring

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 12:08AM
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cecily(7 VA)

Since you live in CA, the tall one is probably a hybrid tea, they just get that big there unless you prune twice a year. Adding a layer of mulch (shredded bark mulch is available bagged at big box stores) will help conserve moisture. The foliage looks great, especially for neglected roses in a drought prone area. Congratulations on your new home.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 7:30AM
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elks(US5 Can6)

This certainly confirms the growth, or rather lack of it, when I fail to water enough mid-summer, when the clay begins to crack either from lack of rain, or being sucked dry by the roots of greedy Norway maples.

Thanks, Henry,

Steve

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 7:13AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Sara-Ann, we are in the same zone, but you must have been far more diligent than I last winter. I doubt if I will have too much to show for about a year. I do have isolated blooms, and some of my older roses are fine, but for most of the garden -- I will have to wait.

My blooms are so small that they are not very pretty. When I asked about this problem, Ann said that she needed to work on the roots this year, then the roses would be larger next year. That perfectly describes my situation. I did not water in the winter, and am paying for it now.

Sammy

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 5:50AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Sammy - Yes, we had a bad winter, and I feel fortunate that I lost very few roses. I do hope things improve soon for your roses, I would love to see them too.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 7:09PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Beautiful! Seil, I love seeing all of your lovely roses. Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 1:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks you all!

Ken, good info! It's in a pot and doing well. It's already given me several blooms and is setting more buds. Clean as a whistle so far too!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:42PM
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pat_bamaz7

IâÂÂm trying to catch up on posts IâÂÂve missed lately, and just now seeing some of the pictures youâÂÂve posted of your new roses. All are beauties, but I think these two are my favorites! Btw, you did inspire me to add a few singles to my garden this year, and IâÂÂm really enjoying their simple beauty.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 3:50PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks everyone!

Ken, I love singles and have several but this is my first mini single.

Pat, if your like me you'll be enchanted by those singles!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:38PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

johnny, I wish I knew. This bush was either one of the originals or one I planted years and years ago. I was rose-dumb then & if I did plant it, didn't keep track of the name. Maybe a Lincoln?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:39PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If it has good fragrance it well could be Mr. Lincoln. It has the right color and form for it.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:23PM
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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Oh, just wait! Those blooms are going to get so lovely in form and color. My problem with it is that it blackspots easily here, I can't slack on spraying this one at all. Right now my Baldo is practically nekked!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:43PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you!

The fully open bloom is about 2 inches across, Jim.

Thanks for the report, Ken!

Hmmm...that's not good news, Bunni. But It hasn't spotted at all yet here so we'll wait and see.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Your DC looks very healthy and happy! I think your yellow one might be Dream Come True?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:18PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Yup, DC is such a gorgeous bush & truly balanced in shape. Plus the roses last forever. I don't think the other one is a Dream Come True. That doesn't sound familiar at all. I have now started getting the tags.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You say this is a "standard patio" rose. Do you mean it's a rose tree? Or just a full size rose not a miniature?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:15PM
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