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linoh_31(6a)

Thanks for responding. The bottom leaves were paler than the later (top) sets of leaves but... the dark green veins only showed up after I sprayed a few days ago. Makes sense the cold wet soil could have created a deficiency. I still can't explain the veining issue.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 8:11PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Plants with iron deficiency normally have darker green veins against a paler background. I wonder if you just overlooked that when the early leaves grew in. Or maybe the lower leaves are just now starting to develop more chlorophyll.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 1:08PM
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Zyperiris(Seattle)

This depends on where you live. I personally would not use Miracle Grow. It's like crack for roses and that bloom comes with a price. I would use some good compost and organics in the soil..get that soil healthy. Cut anything off the rose that looks diseased or dead and hold off anything else until next spring..unless you live in a climate that prunes in the fall. Here in the Pacific Northwest we prune in the spring

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 12:08AM
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cecily(7 VA)

Since you live in CA, the tall one is probably a hybrid tea, they just get that big there unless you prune twice a year. Adding a layer of mulch (shredded bark mulch is available bagged at big box stores) will help conserve moisture. The foliage looks great, especially for neglected roses in a drought prone area. Congratulations on your new home.

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 7:30AM
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elks(US5 Can6)

This certainly confirms the growth, or rather lack of it, when I fail to water enough mid-summer, when the clay begins to crack either from lack of rain, or being sucked dry by the roots of greedy Norway maples.

Thanks, Henry,

Steve

    Bookmark     July 9, 2014 at 7:13AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Sara-Ann, we are in the same zone, but you must have been far more diligent than I last winter. I doubt if I will have too much to show for about a year. I do have isolated blooms, and some of my older roses are fine, but for most of the garden -- I will have to wait.

My blooms are so small that they are not very pretty. When I asked about this problem, Ann said that she needed to work on the roots this year, then the roses would be larger next year. That perfectly describes my situation. I did not water in the winter, and am paying for it now.

Sammy

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 5:50AM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Sammy - Yes, we had a bad winter, and I feel fortunate that I lost very few roses. I do hope things improve soon for your roses, I would love to see them too.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 7:09PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Beautiful! Seil, I love seeing all of your lovely roses. Thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 1:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks you all!

Ken, good info! It's in a pot and doing well. It's already given me several blooms and is setting more buds. Clean as a whistle so far too!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:42PM
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pat_bamaz7

IâÂÂm trying to catch up on posts IâÂÂve missed lately, and just now seeing some of the pictures youâÂÂve posted of your new roses. All are beauties, but I think these two are my favorites! Btw, you did inspire me to add a few singles to my garden this year, and IâÂÂm really enjoying their simple beauty.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 3:50PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks everyone!

Ken, I love singles and have several but this is my first mini single.

Pat, if your like me you'll be enchanted by those singles!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:38PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

johnny, I wish I knew. This bush was either one of the originals or one I planted years and years ago. I was rose-dumb then & if I did plant it, didn't keep track of the name. Maybe a Lincoln?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:39PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If it has good fragrance it well could be Mr. Lincoln. It has the right color and form for it.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:23PM
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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Oh, just wait! Those blooms are going to get so lovely in form and color. My problem with it is that it blackspots easily here, I can't slack on spraying this one at all. Right now my Baldo is practically nekked!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:43PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you!

The fully open bloom is about 2 inches across, Jim.

Thanks for the report, Ken!

Hmmm...that's not good news, Bunni. But It hasn't spotted at all yet here so we'll wait and see.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Your DC looks very healthy and happy! I think your yellow one might be Dream Come True?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:18PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Yup, DC is such a gorgeous bush & truly balanced in shape. Plus the roses last forever. I don't think the other one is a Dream Come True. That doesn't sound familiar at all. I have now started getting the tags.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You say this is a "standard patio" rose. Do you mean it's a rose tree? Or just a full size rose not a miniature?

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If your looking for information on doing rooted cuttings or on growing roses from seed there is a ton of information over on the propagation forum. Do some searches and you'll find many different ways to do both. There may even be instructions on doing bud grafting if that's what you're looking for.

Here is a link that might be useful: Propagation and Exchange forum

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:13PM
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boncrow66

Sara-ann your bouquet is beautiful! I always love seeing your rose pics. And Rosecrazy welcome to the forum and your bouquet is equally as beautiful, hope we see more pics from you! I especially love your CPM, I have a crush on her.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:23PM
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pat_bamaz7

Beautiful blooms!!!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:45PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Unless you want to win HT Queen, hybrid teas aren't the best roses for your area. It takes skill, luck, and a mindset that enjoys replacing roses early and often. There are reasons the northeast considers HTs to be zone 7 plants. A big one being that their performance much into zone 6 isn't very good.

These are not hybrid teas in a public garden near the Hudson River in zone 6a. They were planted last spring, and the picture was taken by somebody else a couple of weeks ago. These not hybrid teas were not winter protected. They also have not been watered, and the only fertilizer is some granular stuff sprinkled around. Next year, I am probably going to have to teach people to prune because we will be into that local unknown, pruning for size.

And Diane, if you are reading this, yes, those are the Fairy Tales. The red roses in the middle are polyanthas that have been around for about 15 years, but the others are that Fairy Tale order.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 10:13AM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

My HT's have been really slow to regrow this year also, due to a long, very cold winter, cool spring & a cooler than normal summer so far. Floribundas, OGR's & shrub roses are the only roses doing well so far in my z4 area.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 12:09PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Like Adrianne said, BS shouldn't stop you from enjoying these roses. I've learned to tolerate BS. It's just reality unless you want to spray. I don't spray.
In late June, I strip the leaves from the bottom of the bush to about 5" or so (as suggested by Stephen Scanniello). I also plant cranesbill or nepeta around their feet. You really can't see the BS.
Susan

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 8:39PM
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phasedweasel(7b)

I just wanted to say, this thread in general and adriannecl's response in particular is exactly why I come here. Detailed experiences about someone else's roses in a similar climate to mine. The pretty pictures also help!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 9:21AM
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