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TO: Tuderte
I read about people using sand ... would that be like Coral Sand that you can buy at a home improvement store? Or can I use beach sand?
TO: seil
I have the opposite problem, in that in winter it doesn't get below 60 deg here to induce dormancy and allow for slow root development.
I used to do the bottle method but I have like 20 cuttings so I am going to try a plastic translucent bin --- would the humidity thing with pebbles and water work in that scenario? I'm also going to try (and probably fail) the burrito method. I don't think the burrito will work because the cuttings don't have enough food in them to survive the week/two weeks without any nutrients.
I was also just on amazon checking on grow light information --- what wattage fluorescent are you using? How many inches from the actual plant does the lamp have to be?
I attempt to do stem cutting propagations using the bottle method and want to up my success rate of 5% to at least 10%, so am really considering trying artificial light.
TO: Jesse09
Wow, HB-101 is pretty pricey, is it worth it really? What have you found it to do? How is it different/the same to Superthrive?

'Chinatown' smells deliciously of peaches, and very strongly. It opens a strong yellow and fades toward light pink in the sun. Sometimes described as resistant to blackspot, it was fairly susceptible for me. Mine was own-root and plenty vigorous, unless you want a full sized climber. Growth was upright with fairly stiff 7' basals, not particularly full for me, but I was trying to grow it as a climber. Should make a good large shrub with the right pruning.

Just looking at grandiflora Heart of Gold/Heart O' Gold & thought of you. If what you really want is Gold Medal with fragrance, this may be your rose. Broadway x Gold Medal
Here is a link that might be useful: Heart O' Gold
This post was edited by vasue on Thu, Dec 4, 14 at 14:15

Sorry, duplicated.
Braverichard
For sure, the new growth is sucker from the original rootstock Dr Huey.
I never have had experience or trouble with the rose under freezing temperature. Because I live in the one of the hottest region in the world. We suffered from the heat, but this happens for everywhere.
Your rose had been cared very good and healthy, nice cane. For me, I would use the healthy new sucker to graft with other favorite varieties on it, it will award you with bloom in just few weeks when the weather is warm enough and a lot of fun!
The T-budding, Chip Budding and Cleft grafting do good to success.

This post was edited by gardentiller on Thu, Dec 4, 14 at 13:40

I had a knockout rose do that two years ago. the canes look really brown like my did. I went ahead and dug my up and got rid of it. It was five years old when it happened. I pull the rose shrub out with no problem so maybe the roots were already dead. just to be safe see what happens over the rest of the winter and see if it puts out new canes at the bottom next spring if it does not get rid of it.


I would go ahead and do it now. In your zone I don't think it would be a big problem. Temps would have to get down to about 28 degrees for the rose to be damaged. If your roses don't go completely dormant during the winter than you should be able to re-pot it at any time. The biggest thing you need to do is keep the existing root ball intact when you transplant it. If you keep it intact and just move it into a bigger pot with more soil it should go on with out any problem.

Corona makes a Felco clone of good quality and a Felco clone of not so good quality. The good one is very good. I have both Felcos and the Corona version. I have a long pole pruner to deadhead the big climbing roses. That really comes in handy.
Really handy is the little sharpener Corona makes that works well on the bypass blades. Sharp clean cuts every time. Some 0000 steel wool and oil to clean the blades keeps them like new.
The West Country gauntlet rose gloves have been very durable. They are made out of some sort of synthetic fabric that has been very tough and protective, and can be machine-washed. I can destroy a pair of quality garden gloves in a week, but these have held up for over a year, a record for me.

You're more likely to have a few canes with hard pruning than not, as has been pointed out stem tissue reduction reduces ability to grow back afterward. In fact, a British study showed that shearing bush roses like a hedge resulted in increased flower production over the beloved "opening up of the center". But if you think what is being done at the park is to your taste then by all means go for it.
My only other comment is that I would not assume that what I saw happening at a public park was always the result of someone there being in the know. The fact that so many public parks continue to undertake things like formal bedding out of flowering plants in the first place shows that the thinking involved has often not changed in a very long time. Tradition and routine can be a big part of the culture in such settings.
And pressure to keep things the same can come from outside, as well as within a parks organization. For instance, the testing-of-the-waters changing of one set of hanging flower baskets on the downtown streets here to harmonious pastels (instead of the traditional loud, clashing color combinations) one year resulted in an outcry.
This post was edited by bboy on Mon, Dec 1, 14 at 13:26

I think we've had good discussions on this. I've heard of what other folks do. Good to know.
There is no perfect solution to almost anything. If we see something to our liking, then we can create the same effect. There are just so many ways to get things done.
I think it is time to close this topics. Or we just go circles....
Happy gardening.

I got mine a week late also. I did get them planted as I dug the holes weeks ago. We have had early cold weather so I am keeping my fingers crossed, I have had great luck with fall planting from Palatine and hope for success this time,too! Hope your roses settle in and glow in the spring. Lesley

Lesley, I did plant roses last year in the Fall that I received from Palatine, with no problem. I was actually surprised that they made it through the Winter given the awful polar vortex that hit us pretty hard. Let's hope that we don't see a polar vortex part 2 this year! Good luck with your roses and I look forward to seeing pics of your beautiful garden. :-)


Welcome, Steven. Glad to meet you and I enjoyed your lovely 'thank you' posting. You have good instincts for a great group of mentors to follow here; there are so many wonderful contributors on this forum.
Hope to read more about your garden and your roses in future,
Anne








A bud
I feel rather silly not realizing what it was now that I have pulled it out of the "grow-up" zone. It was lost in the foliage of the other roses and other than it falling over when it bloomed I did not pay any attention, just thought it was moms friends cutting and did not think about it more.