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seil zone 6b MI

If your looking for information on doing rooted cuttings or on growing roses from seed there is a ton of information over on the propagation forum. Do some searches and you'll find many different ways to do both. There may even be instructions on doing bud grafting if that's what you're looking for.

Here is a link that might be useful: Propagation and Exchange forum

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 6:13PM
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boncrow66

Sara-ann your bouquet is beautiful! I always love seeing your rose pics. And Rosecrazy welcome to the forum and your bouquet is equally as beautiful, hope we see more pics from you! I especially love your CPM, I have a crush on her.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:23PM
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pat_bamaz7

Beautiful blooms!!!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 4:45PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Unless you want to win HT Queen, hybrid teas aren't the best roses for your area. It takes skill, luck, and a mindset that enjoys replacing roses early and often. There are reasons the northeast considers HTs to be zone 7 plants. A big one being that their performance much into zone 6 isn't very good.

These are not hybrid teas in a public garden near the Hudson River in zone 6a. They were planted last spring, and the picture was taken by somebody else a couple of weeks ago. These not hybrid teas were not winter protected. They also have not been watered, and the only fertilizer is some granular stuff sprinkled around. Next year, I am probably going to have to teach people to prune because we will be into that local unknown, pruning for size.

And Diane, if you are reading this, yes, those are the Fairy Tales. The red roses in the middle are polyanthas that have been around for about 15 years, but the others are that Fairy Tale order.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 10:13AM
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wirosarian_z4b_WI

My HT's have been really slow to regrow this year also, due to a long, very cold winter, cool spring & a cooler than normal summer so far. Floribundas, OGR's & shrub roses are the only roses doing well so far in my z4 area.

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 12:09PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Like Adrianne said, BS shouldn't stop you from enjoying these roses. I've learned to tolerate BS. It's just reality unless you want to spray. I don't spray.
In late June, I strip the leaves from the bottom of the bush to about 5" or so (as suggested by Stephen Scanniello). I also plant cranesbill or nepeta around their feet. You really can't see the BS.
Susan

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 8:39PM
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phasedweasel(7b)

I just wanted to say, this thread in general and adriannecl's response in particular is exactly why I come here. Detailed experiences about someone else's roses in a similar climate to mine. The pretty pictures also help!

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 9:21AM
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boncrow66

Your Love Song is beautiful! Makes me want one

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:28PM
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tigerloveroses

Beautiful

    Bookmark     July 8, 2014 at 1:56AM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Thanks seil, I only have a normal rose pruner. I tried cutting these dead canes off before I got all the new growth around it. I didn't have the proper equipment. Any suggestions for what to buy to get the fatter dead canes out? Would it hurt to wait til end of Fall when they stop producing cuz the dead ones are rightin the middle of the live--really hard to get at.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 4:56PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I use bigger loppers for the really heavy canes where I can. I also have a folding saw for tight spots. You need a saw that's very sturdy but narrow to get right down to the bud union. Just do the best you can. I'd cut off what you can now and then wait for late winter or early spring to really get down in there.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 11:46PM
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boncrow66

That's such a pretty color! Love all the pics and I like seeing how it looks on the bush.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:26PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lol, Cynthia, you sound so like me! I can never resist just one more! I bought mine at a local nursery so I don't know who else might have it.

Thanks, boncrow!

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 11:16PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you everyone. I'm fairly certain the bush is not diseased, it doesn't appear to be. I might try making some cuts around the base just to see what happens, if it doesn't work no harm. It is kind of difficult to see a rose decline after it has done so well, but not the end of the world and there is definitely no shortage of roses that I want to try.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 7:05PM
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Cindi McMurray

Does it make a difference if these cuts are made during high temps? I think I need to do this to some of my non-performing HTs, including my Bewitched.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 10:10PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

I ordered praying mantis pods this spring when I ordered aphids. Let me tell you, there is not much more interesting than watching 800 teeny tiny itty bitty praying mantis come out of a pod.
Then you just shake them around the garden!
Susan

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 8:42PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Cool poorbutroserich on the praying mantis!
You ordered aphids?

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 9:20PM
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SouthCountryGuy Zone 4b-5 SE BC(Zone 4b-5 SE BC Canada)

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

We have limited choices up here. Either copper or sulphur based or serenade.

I appreciate your time.

SCG

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 6:50PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

I don't spray. There was a time I would use diluted sulphur, but I haven't bothered with that in 5 years or more.

There are simply too many good rose choices now that are exceptionally resistant to diseases. If any rose in my garden shows a recurring susceptibility to a specific disease, it now ends up being shovel pruned and replaced with a variety that doesn't.

Life is simply too short to grow bad roses.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 8:54PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

That could be Seil and Michaelg. I have another type of rose bush planted in between the two Carefree Sunshines and it is blooming up a storm. I have flowers in that area but not to close that they would interfere with either CS and the flowers are growing and blooming good also.

I'll try to be patient...lol.... Thanks!

Most of the bands I've planted bloomed very well the second year so it threw me off base when these two are hardly blooming at all...

This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 17:14

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:06PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I just realized after looking on HMF at my Carefree Sunshine pictures that I planted both our CS mid to latter July of 2013... So they were planted later than I thought.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 7:21PM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

The red is beautiful, Seil. Kate, I love you red, white, and blue. How festive!

Sammy

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 6:06AM
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dizzylizzy415

So beautiful, Kate!

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:34PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

MordenMan has listed most of my suggestions of mannerly Kordes FT roses - Elegant and Floral particularly. In my yard, Solero Vigorosa stays low and is a constant bloomer but you'd need a BIG pot, as she wants to grow very wide. It's probably 18" tall and 6 feet wide, and wants to be more if I'd let it.

Another option that has stayed low for me is Cream Flower Circus. It's around 2-3 feet tall and no more than the same amount wide. Seems like the light colored Kordes floris are the more mannerly sized ones.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 4:33PM
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andreark

Nippstress, thanks for the answer.

Elegant and Floral are actually my two favorite choices
for my deck 'pot city'. The pots are all 24 gallon which is
a large pot. Kosmos is just as pleased as punch with
this location and size of pot.

I will order this in September.

Thanks a bunch again,

andreark

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 5:00PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You did fine. If you're concerned just mulch it deeper for winter. Just so you know, it's perfectly OK to bury some of the cane when you plant. It won't harm the rose.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 11:19AM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Thanks seil. I remember when I "inherited" about 12 roses all together when we bought our home almost 22 years ago. Some of the 'originals' remain, and many we have planted ourselves over the years. It seemed over the years that in Wisconsin--the rose people (as I call them) would change their minds every few years on whether to bury the bud union/graft or leave it exposed or partially exposed. First it was bury completely due to our extreme winters at times, then don't bury....arghhhh. Last I heard, it was supposed to be completely buried, but I'm glad it looks okay to you--cuz as you could hopefully see by the pic--there was no way I could bury it completely without having to cut off a number of healthy canes growing from the union or trying to bury the canes too. Thanks!

    Bookmark     July 7, 2014 at 12:43PM
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