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Your Love Song is beautiful! Makes me want one

Beautiful

Thanks seil, I only have a normal rose pruner. I tried cutting these dead canes off before I got all the new growth around it. I didn't have the proper equipment. Any suggestions for what to buy to get the fatter dead canes out? Would it hurt to wait til end of Fall when they stop producing cuz the dead ones are rightin the middle of the live--really hard to get at.

I use bigger loppers for the really heavy canes where I can. I also have a folding saw for tight spots. You need a saw that's very sturdy but narrow to get right down to the bud union. Just do the best you can. I'd cut off what you can now and then wait for late winter or early spring to really get down in there.

That's such a pretty color! Love all the pics and I like seeing how it looks on the bush.

Lol, Cynthia, you sound so like me! I can never resist just one more! I bought mine at a local nursery so I don't know who else might have it.

Thanks, boncrow!

Thank you everyone. I'm fairly certain the bush is not diseased, it doesn't appear to be. I might try making some cuts around the base just to see what happens, if it doesn't work no harm. It is kind of difficult to see a rose decline after it has done so well, but not the end of the world and there is definitely no shortage of roses that I want to try.

Does it make a difference if these cuts are made during high temps? I think I need to do this to some of my non-performing HTs, including my Bewitched.

I ordered praying mantis pods this spring when I ordered aphids. Let me tell you, there is not much more interesting than watching 800 teeny tiny itty bitty praying mantis come out of a pod.
Then you just shake them around the garden!
Susan

Cool poorbutroserich on the praying mantis!
You ordered aphids?

Thanks, I was wondering about that.

We have limited choices up here. Either copper or sulphur based or serenade.

I appreciate your time.

SCG

I don't spray. There was a time I would use diluted sulphur, but I haven't bothered with that in 5 years or more.

There are simply too many good rose choices now that are exceptionally resistant to diseases. If any rose in my garden shows a recurring susceptibility to a specific disease, it now ends up being shovel pruned and replaced with a variety that doesn't.

Life is simply too short to grow bad roses.

That could be Seil and Michaelg. I have another type of rose bush planted in between the two Carefree Sunshines and it is blooming up a storm. I have flowers in that area but not to close that they would interfere with either CS and the flowers are growing and blooming good also.

I'll try to be patient...lol.... Thanks!

Most of the bands I've planted bloomed very well the second year so it threw me off base when these two are hardly blooming at all...

This post was edited by jim1961 on Mon, Jul 7, 14 at 17:14

I just realized after looking on HMF at my Carefree Sunshine pictures that I planted both our CS mid to latter July of 2013... So they were planted later than I thought.

The red is beautiful, Seil. Kate, I love you red, white, and blue. How festive!

Sammy

So beautiful, Kate!

MordenMan has listed most of my suggestions of mannerly Kordes FT roses - Elegant and Floral particularly. In my yard, Solero Vigorosa stays low and is a constant bloomer but you'd need a BIG pot, as she wants to grow very wide. It's probably 18" tall and 6 feet wide, and wants to be more if I'd let it.

Another option that has stayed low for me is Cream Flower Circus. It's around 2-3 feet tall and no more than the same amount wide. Seems like the light colored Kordes floris are the more mannerly sized ones.

Cynthia

Nippstress, thanks for the answer.

Elegant and Floral are actually my two favorite choices
for my deck 'pot city'. The pots are all 24 gallon which is
a large pot. Kosmos is just as pleased as punch with
this location and size of pot.

I will order this in September.

Thanks a bunch again,

andreark

You did fine. If you're concerned just mulch it deeper for winter. Just so you know, it's perfectly OK to bury some of the cane when you plant. It won't harm the rose.

Thanks seil. I remember when I "inherited" about 12 roses all together when we bought our home almost 22 years ago. Some of the 'originals' remain, and many we have planted ourselves over the years. It seemed over the years that in Wisconsin--the rose people (as I call them) would change their minds every few years on whether to bury the bud union/graft or leave it exposed or partially exposed. First it was bury completely due to our extreme winters at times, then don't bury....arghhhh. Last I heard, it was supposed to be completely buried, but I'm glad it looks okay to you--cuz as you could hopefully see by the pic--there was no way I could bury it completely without having to cut off a number of healthy canes growing from the union or trying to bury the canes too. Thanks!

I have Souvenir DA la malmaisson that I planted this year. It is becoming one of my favorites. It always has blooms and is doing well in the heat with minimal BS at the beginning of summer and none at all now.

Tamora,which is almost identical to Evelyn as far as I can tell, blooms and blooms, facing west against a light-colored stucco wall, despite temps in the 90s.
Alnwick Rose blooms freely, but the flowers shatter almost immediately in hot weather.
In descending order of heat tolerance:
Queen of Sweden
Darcey Bussell
Carding Mill
Molineux
Munstead Wood

I got it last year and grew it in a pot. The flowers were on the small to medium size, but they had a nice color. It actually did reasonably well in the pot. It is not what would be considered an exhibition rose for rose shows, but it does put on a good show in the yard. Below is a picture of what it did look like growing in the pot.

Maybe this will give you an idea what to expect.

I got a bareroot from Spring hill of this one and i love it. The blooms are good sized, reddish orange buds that open up orange and fade pinkish,yellow, orange. So far so good, i just planted it this spring and it is really taking off here in Minnesota

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Your Love Song pictures are quite pretty. Thanks for the look. If I have space, I might add this one.

New Dawn (10' to 20') is an everblooming sport of Dr, Van Fleet Height of (15' to 20'). As such it is not expected to have the vigor of Dr. Van Fleet.

Over the years it appears that some New Dawns are more like Dr. Van Fleet.

You may want to try Awakening (8' to 14') , a more controllable sport of New Dawn.

The numbers presented are from Help-Me-Find.

Weeell, I don't know about 'Awakening' being more controllable than 'New Dawn.' Maybe I have an exceptionally vigorous clone, but mine is the proverbial thorny monster. I did what catsrose suggests, and transplanted mine to the back fence line to discourage incursions from neighbors I don't want to know.