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Run do not walk to "www.vintagegardens.com". This is the site of the no longer active Vintage Gardens nursery. Just click on "roses", and you will see a list of classes. Click on any class, and you will see a list of roses (probably saying "no longer available", as the nursery is closed). Most of the roses have pictures. This website is still operating as of today, but may be gone soon - I understand that the non-profit which has rescued the collection plans on having their own web site, but I don't know if all of the rose info is on it yet. Thus, the recommendation to look at it immediately.
VG sells (which they may still be doing right now) a fabulous catalogue of roses, "Vintage Gardens Complete Catalogue of Antique and Extraordinary Roses". It is arranged by class, and includes many older hybrid teas and other "modern" roses as well as antiques.
Jackie
Thanks everyone! They are concrete pavers and the water gets in between them (hence my weeds) and the rose has about 3 feet (a clematis on each side which may have been dumb) and about 18 inches width. Just in the short time since I posted these pics it has put up a lot of bright green growth towards the top. I just cut out a huge dead cane and supported the main cane with a pole. I will probably go and buy an arch shaped trellis to train it on but they are so dang expensive. The Blaze Improved next to it has, well, improved. It has put up new buds and green at the top as well. I see a hole next to it from some critter so I hope it won't hurt the rose. Dang critters. The blaze was transplanted in the middle of summer last year by necessity so I knew it would suffer but it looks awful. I'm guessing it will look much better next year.
The reason I posted is because I'm awful with roses (I have 100 daylilies that look fabulous) so I dared to buy some easy ones and I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can for it.
Thanks again everyone!
Yeah, the jury's still out for RdV in my garden...in spite of it's bloom problems, it seems to be quite vigorous as a plant. I dug mine up to try to figure out why it couldn't produce decent blooms in spite of being so large and basically vigorous, and found that the soil in which the roots were "growing" was worthless, powdery SAND- like decayed potting soil. The plant just SLIPPED OUT of that stuff, even though it'd been there 4 plus years. Enough to kill many a rose...instead,RdV 's onlt real symptom was the inability to produce good quality flowers! We shall see....bart
They both look like hybrid teas so they should rebloom this summer for you. Take lots of pictures of the buds and every stage of bloom. That will help to ID them.
In the mean time keep them watered and fertilized and healthy. I wouldn't prune them at all, just dead head the spent blooms, and give them a chance to grow back some size. When they get a little larger you could do as anenemity suggest and take some cuttings to root.
It's possible that the Easy Does Its were infected because they are on the sides of the other rose. In a way, they were protecting the other rose. Once you remove those, the other rose might get infected.
Have you checked to see if there are multiflora in the area? Perhaps ones that are infected that could be removed?
I think I know how to identify RRD. I remove the infected cane to the ground. If the witch's broom, weird growth, hyper thorniness, rubbery stems, return, I remove the shrub. I don't believe herbicide damage returns on new growth. We live on a mountainside with large farms and meadows below. They probably harbor multifloras, but I have never seen them. I'll keep replanting as long as I am able. Very discouraging.
6" is complete overkill in your zone. Many roses will not thrive planted that deep as it is very difficult to get both water and oxygen to the root system. 2" below soil line should be fine. If your roses are mostly on Dr. Huey understock, then that likely explains your mortality rate. Get them grafted on multiflora and plant them 2-3" below the soil line and they'll be fine.
I had more than I've had in previous years. I hope that isn't a trend. But it was still manageable. They seem to love certain roses, so I would check those and was able to send most of them to JB heaven (or hell).
So far, I don't have JBs, but we do have Chilli Thrips, which can ouright kill the rose, not just gobble up blooms.