22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

Yeah, the jury's still out for RdV in my garden...in spite of it's bloom problems, it seems to be quite vigorous as a plant. I dug mine up to try to figure out why it couldn't produce decent blooms in spite of being so large and basically vigorous, and found that the soil in which the roots were "growing" was worthless, powdery SAND- like decayed potting soil. The plant just SLIPPED OUT of that stuff, even though it'd been there 4 plus years. Enough to kill many a rose...instead,RdV 's onlt real symptom was the inability to produce good quality flowers! We shall see....bart

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 7:03AM
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professorroush(6A)

The Dark Lady here is not a bright red, but it certainly isn't dark either. Somewhere between Mr. Lincoln and Ingrid Bergman in shade, I think.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 7:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you, Kim! I learned a lot from you!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 3:51PM
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roseseek(9)

You're welcome ma'am! Thank you! I'm glad! Happy Fourth! Kim

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 4:01PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

All 3 look beautiful!

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 7:19PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Kentucky_rose

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 10:08AM
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seil zone 6b MI

They both look like hybrid teas so they should rebloom this summer for you. Take lots of pictures of the buds and every stage of bloom. That will help to ID them.

In the mean time keep them watered and fertilized and healthy. I wouldn't prune them at all, just dead head the spent blooms, and give them a chance to grow back some size. When they get a little larger you could do as anenemity suggest and take some cuttings to root.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 12:01AM
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Mitchell1

Thank you all for the help!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 9:05AM
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martinca_gw

"I once played that striptease song for a rose and all its leaves fell off... ;-/"
LOL Jim!

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 11:51PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

What could I play to my bindweed to kill it off...maybe some real "dark" stuff, like that group The Sisters of Mercy?

    Bookmark     July 4, 2014 at 6:56AM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Palatine Roses will be taking orders in Sept. for fall or spring delivery. I know I'll be ordering for a fall shipment.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 8:33PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Kate is right about Chamblees but they aren't shipping again until Sept. I think they used to ship year round but aren't anymore They are awesome too. I've ordered from both places. Judy

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 11:27PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

It's possible that the Easy Does Its were infected because they are on the sides of the other rose. In a way, they were protecting the other rose. Once you remove those, the other rose might get infected.

Have you checked to see if there are multiflora in the area? Perhaps ones that are infected that could be removed?

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:52AM
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lainey2(7a)

I think I know how to identify RRD. I remove the infected cane to the ground. If the witch's broom, weird growth, hyper thorniness, rubbery stems, return, I remove the shrub. I don't believe herbicide damage returns on new growth. We live on a mountainside with large farms and meadows below. They probably harbor multifloras, but I have never seen them. I'll keep replanting as long as I am able. Very discouraging.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 11:04PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

6" is complete overkill in your zone. Many roses will not thrive planted that deep as it is very difficult to get both water and oxygen to the root system. 2" below soil line should be fine. If your roses are mostly on Dr. Huey understock, then that likely explains your mortality rate. Get them grafted on multiflora and plant them 2-3" below the soil line and they'll be fine.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:39PM
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katiecater

Thank you! Got 'em in, and crossing my fingers that we don't see another winter like the last!

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 10:07PM
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johnnycabot(Z4b MI.)

Found pics previously taken. Cane on right was 1 inch plus when sawed off below girdling damage. you can see the new growth out both sides.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:51PM
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johnnycabot(Z4b MI.)

I tie vertically here. I would saw your rose off at about 18" and hope for the best. Do you have that rose in sun,? looks shady...Protect your fresh cut, and feed. Your rose looks strong enough to do it. Good Luck!

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 10:04PM
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tigerloveroses

Thx.will do.i spread some bone meal on top layer ,and I think that did the damage.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 1:21AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Actually bone meal is inert and has little effect on the soil or plant.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:19AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Beautiful roses, Anne!

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 10:47PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oooh!!! I really like Siren's Keep - and I really like the name too. Such a soft color on Blue For You - really pretty.

You did well on those two!!
Carol

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 12:53AM
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charleney(8a PNW)

POLKA, POLKA, POLKA!!!! That meets all the criteria and more.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 3:09PM
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Molineux(6b)

My favorite climbers are Climbing La France and Sombreuil.

Climbing Lady Hillingdon is one of the most beautiful roses that I've ever seen. The woman I knew who grew it was in zone 6b so it should do just fine in 7a provided of course you site it correctly against a south facing wall.

Reve d'Or ties with Mme. Alfred Carriere as perhaps the highest rated Noisette. You really can't go wrong with it.

Climbing Crimson Glory is a drop dead gorgeous dark red climbing rose with a fragrance to die for. Unfortunately I've read spotty reports on its vigor. It seems to do great in the Deep South and Texas, but elsewhere can be slow to establish itself.

Image of La France by Labrea-7NYC.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 11:01PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Soooooo beautiful!

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 9:54PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks all!

Thanks for the tip, Zack! Mine is in morning sun now. Maybe I'll move it into more sun.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 10:46PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Yes, I see the 10th image down is paler but not mottled. Possibly some nitrogen would make it greener, but, on the other hand, some roses just have darker foliage than others. Repeat-blooming roses need nitrogen added each year, though.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 4:39PM
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roseseek(9)

"Own root" means nothing when considering RMV. If the plant from which the cutting was taken is infected, the own root plant will be, too. If the original stock of the variety is infected, until it is heat treated to remove the infection, every plant produced from it will also be infected. That was the original issue with many US roses produced in the middle of the last century. You can't find an uninfected plant if all the stock was infected to build the quantity of material required to introduce the variety. It finally became such an issue that it is much less likely to find newer roses infected, but it is by no means impossible. Kim

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 7:38PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

Jeri, thanks for offering up 'R. woodsii' as a possible ID. Looking at pics of both on HelpMeFind, I'm leaning more toward your suggestion now.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 4:54PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

R. nutkana is another possibility.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 5:00PM
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