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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

Just today I noticed (for the first time) a row of five Distant Drums in full bloom nearby. I didn't have time to stop and take a picture, but I was very happy to see somebody else who was a fan of this Buck Rose.

There are tons of roses in bloom. My parents' neighbor has some lovely Living Easy and Just Joey plantings in his front yard with what I suspect may be Reve d'Or trained over his front door. It's just beautiful right now.

I saw a gigantic Mutabilis in full bloom a day ago and a white Noisette creeping over a fence that I thought was either Lamarque or Madame Alfred Carriere which is occasionally available at nurseries around here. Many Lady Banks roses are looking beautiful.

Julia Childs and Icebergs all over are just covered in blooms. It's a wonderful time of year! I'm noticing more roses than ever before here because I'm actually paying attention to landscaping everywhere I go.

Jay

    Bookmark   April 14, 2014 at 3:02AM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

The roses edged in boxwood are really ornamental and soften the hardscape so well. It turns it into an almost park-like setting.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2014 at 2:30PM
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seil zone 6b MI

We see this a lot in the spring here and it's black spot that has over wintered on the canes. I don't do anything with it myself. Black spot is a fact of life here and if I cut it all off I wouldn't have any roses left. The roses usually grow and bloom just fine even with the spots.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 11:48PM
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pootpoot1(9B inland empire)

Thank you Seil.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2014 at 11:47AM
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boncrow66

I have heard cavies are affectionate and have the nickname of love bugs. I will also buy a rose or plant that my hubbie picks out lol, if he shows a interest I'll get it. He loves to deadhead my roses too, he keeps a pairs of pruning scissors on the patio table so he can snip of a dead bloom at any given moment. If you go back let us know what you come home with! I can't wait to hear how your boscobel does for you.

    Bookmark   April 14, 2014 at 9:09AM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

As soon as boscobel opens I'll be sure to post pics !! I am glad my dh dosnt like to touch the roses , I love to do that myself . One time he wacked down a row of limelight hydrangeas about 7 years ago and that was the last thing I asked him to do ! Lol he humors me and looks at blooms and smells them . And dosnt care if I spend a small fortune on my garden stuff. We can live off hot dogs and Mac n. Cheese ! :) I'd rather have plants .
Seil , you would have loved it there! I know you grow lots of floribundas and they had a ton ! I fell in love with a few , one called jump for joy , white licorice was gorgeous and this one called Anna's promise . I don't even like oranges but maybe my heart is changing ! Lol


Jump for joy ( above)


Anna's promise. Camera doesn't even come close to how pretty it was!

This post was edited by lilyfinch on Mon, Apr 14, 14 at 10:47

    Bookmark   April 14, 2014 at 10:39AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

My 2 cents

I have one Austin that is an accidental ownroot (I came home with a variety of roses and found a cane laying in the bed of the truck next to an expired patent rose.) Disappointed that I had managed to tear the best cane off in transporting, I diced it up and poked them in the ground under glass. Amazingly they all rooted, they were in a bad spot so I moved them assuming they would die, to 3 corners in the same little garden. I had no idea they were not the non patent rose. They grew and grew, filling the corners of the bed and then....a bud. Clearly not the rose I had thought they were all along but instead the Austin I picked up the wrong pot of when buying. I did not want that plant, the reviews were bad, it balls, crisps etc. I was not happy. Now I had this rose I did not want x 4.

Fast forward, that own root grows faster, reblooms more and is incredible. Each of the accidental cuttings is better than the grafted mother plant. I can tie and move the own root canes, the grafted plants canes break off with a stern look. It still balls and crisps, but I no longer care because with so many blooms, some still open. She still nods, but I love that charm and besides with 30 blooms in a couple of feet...what is not to enjoy.

I think that how an individual plant does grafted or not depends on the plant and not so much as the breeder.

That DA also will tip root and provided me with the first seedling at her feet. Maybe it is the anomaly in Austins, but this is one that needs reducing power from the root stock.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:32PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you ladies for the good information, I do appreciate it. You all are so helpful and knowledgeable. Kippy, that sounds like a fun experience with your accidental own root Austin.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 7:23PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Pem - in response to your questions about own root vs. grafted survival, I don't know that there's clear evidence one way or the other. Grafted plants tend to grow a little more quickly in their first summer, which may give them a headstart in their first year on winter survival if the graft is buried deeply enough, but it's a tossup most years.

What the difference is for me is that if I see something sprouting from an ownroot rose I know I get to be excited about the real rose surviving. Too often I've gotten excited about sprouts from a grafted rose only to discover a visit from Dr. Huey the next year when it blooms, and I kick myself for nurturing the little bugger through a whole summer thinking it was my original rose. At least with own root roses, it either survives or it doesn't, and you don't have the cruel limbo of unidentified growth.

Cynthia

    Bookmark   March 31, 2014 at 7:20PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

This was absolutely the worst winter in terms of winter damage to most of my roses. I have pruned down some of them to half their size due to the extreme winter damage seen on the canes. One rose is completely brown except for some green seen at ground level-- this 'Hot Cocoa' is an own root rose so I am hoping to see some new shoots emerge soon before I do the drastic pruning of the brown canes. The rugosa rose 'Blanc de Colbert' was hardly affected by the winter weather. 'Souvenir de la Malmaison' had to be pruned by half. All the roses had mulch over their roots but no burlap around them or leaves in their centers.These are established roses from at least 5 years in the ground. 'Hot Cocoa' was planted last year.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 6:32PM
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boncrow66

This makes me wish I could make another trip to Chamblees just for the bargain area! I didn't get to spend much time in that area when I was there. We were trying to beat the rain and I already had a truck load lol. Glad you had a good trip Judith.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 3:59PM
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alameda/zone 8

My Carding Mill - one of my very favorite Austins - has always been apricot, never seen pink blooms on - not sure what could cause it to look pink.....

Boncrow, I was just in Tyler with friends Friday - we stopped by Pandora's Box [an antique and plant shop in Frankston], Blue Moon Gardens then Hand Nursery. The truck was totally packed full - I was sitting with a clematis at my feet, so unfortunately I was not able to go to Chamblees. After Easter, I plan to make a trip back there just to go to Chamblees. Am sure everything will be blooming then! We drove by the Azalea Trail - everything was in full bloom and just fabulous. You really should make another trip "to see the azaleas" then go by Chamblees!!

I am just starting to see blooms - beautiful this morning is Buck's Wanderin' Wind that was a $2 rose from Chamblees sale bin a year ago......
Judith

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 5:07PM
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Crazymommy

Maybe you can see him here....

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 1:37PM
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Crazymommy

And one more hiding

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 1:39PM
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jaspermplants

I planted a grafted PJPII this past winter and so far it is beautiful and healthy. I love it and I'm not that into hybrid teas. But, it remains to be seen if it will survive the summer; that is the real test of roses here, I think.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 10:54PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Jasper, it should do well. Mine always performs it's best when it's the hottest here. It really hates my cool springs and falls and rarely grows much or blooms until at least July. And those nice thick petals open very reliably in any humidity. It's the only white HT I've ever had luck with in my humid Great Lakes area.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:34PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It may be 1867, the introduction of the rose La France, Melissa, since that's the year they use in ARS competitions to distinguish between Dowager and Victorian awards. Thanks for the more comprehensive list of classes. I tried to figure them all out once because I wanted to exhibit a newly introduced rose that is in an OGR class and didn't know if it would qualify for Victorian or Dowager or if it had to go in the Shrub catagory because of it's new intro date. In the end they said it could go in Victorian because of it's classification but not Dowager because it was introduced after 1867. It's complicated since some of the classes also have sub classes within them as well. I never did come up with a complete list, lol. Your explanation that it has to do with the date the CLASS was introduce and not the date the VARIETY was introduced is very clear.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:29PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It may be 1867, the introduction of the rose La France, Melissa, since that's the year they use in ARS competitions to distinguish between Dowager and Victorian awards. Thanks for the more comprehensive list of classes. I tried to figure them all out once because I wanted to exhibit a newly introduced rose that is in an OGR class and didn't know if it would qualify for Victorian or Dowager or if it had to go in the Shrub catagory because of it's new intro date. In the end they said it could go in Victorian because of it's classification but not Dowager because it was introduced after 1867. It's complicated since some of the classes also have sub classes within them as well. I never did come up with a complete list, lol. Your explanation that it has to do with the date the CLASS was introduce and not the date the VARIETY was introduced is very clear.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:30PM
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greengrass12(5)

Thanks seil. Luckily that's exactly what I did. There wasn't much root hair, maybe they dried up and got ripped off. It looks like they trimmed the big roots and stuck it in the pot before shipping. I will hold onto my receipt.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 10:31AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Good! I look forward to seeing it in bloom!

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:14PM
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deervssteve(9)

It may come back. Do you know if it was deer, rabbits, caterpillars or wombats that did the damage? It if was deer, you need to find a way to keep them away from your plant. They have strange eating habits. They may leave something alone for decades and then it becomes food.

You can try taste or smell based products, but they haven't worked for me. There are three ways to keep deer from eating a rose; enclosing an entire area with a very tall fence, deer cages or training the growth to be above about 4 feet. This is for climbers and staked canes.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 11:41AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh, what a shame! I don't have deer (knock wood) but the rabbits do a number on mine. The best thing is a fence or to cage them some how so they can't be eaten. it's the most effective way to go. Repellents only work for a time and you have to be vigilant about applying them regularly. But eventually they get used to it and ignore it and you have to change tactics.

I think your rose will come back. As long as the stem remains green it should grow new leaves. Keep it away from the deer though because it will only have the energy to do that a couple of times before it will die.

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 12:00PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

I am so happy for you. This is an exciting time of year with the anticipation of all those beautiful blooms!

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 8:01AM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Good to hear as I'm getting frustrated with the slow leafing out here in South Carolina. Weather is finally turning, I'll fertilize for the first time today and hopefully that will move them along. What a strange year!

    Bookmark   April 13, 2014 at 8:44AM
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bethnorcal9

I seem to recall mine doing the same thing the first couple of bloomings. Like Kim said, it'll turn purple eventually. It's by far one of my favorite roses.

Here's a couple of pics of mine from a few days ago:

As you can see, the color varies from bloom to bloom and day to day.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 9:06AM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Wow, Beth! You just confirmed that purple is my favorite color. That is beautiful.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 9:23PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Yes RU roses are very nice...

My roses from Heirloom just arrived and look very
healthy. I usually put them straight into the ground
BUT we are getting two nights of frosts so that will
not be happening...lol

    Bookmark   May 11, 2013 at 2:18PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Heirloom Roses posted on their website that they are now offering roses in gallon pots, due to customer feedback asking for more mature roses. They are higher priced though. The bands are still available.

Here is a link that might be useful: Video from Heirloom Roses

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 9:20PM
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ehlerslw

great looking rose!

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 7:46PM
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boncrow66

Thank you! It's so exciting to start seeing blooms that I have only seen in pictures.

    Bookmark   April 12, 2014 at 9:05PM
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