22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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landerson726

I used new soil because I thought I was giving them the best opportunity for growth by buying something - apparently not. It looks like I could have saved a lot of money by not buying dirt - good advertising on the dirt makers part I guess!

I live in zone 8A (lower Alabama on the Gulf Coast) and I have heard of blackspot disease which got me worried. There is no stand still water. I had no idea they needed that little of water. I was way over doing the watering!

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:19PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I had a part of our yard sink from when I buried our pet dog this winter.
I purchased garden soil from our hardware store in which I filled in the sinking areas. You know I'm having a hard time getting grass to grow in that location...

Anyhow that's my situation and not yours...
Kate and Michaelg advice sounds good to me...

Best wishes and I hope things work out! Post a pic of your blooms someday! Thanks...

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:23PM
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njmomma(z6 NJ)

My neighbor!! 7 years ago she planted them and hasn't grown them since but I'm pulling them out of my garden bed that shares a fence with her ever since. So annoying!!!

    Bookmark     June 28, 2014 at 10:47PM
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anenemity

After struggling with bindweed for 6 years (and counting), I never want to see that kind of flower again.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 9:57AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

I used to grown Hot Cocoa, and it was a very unusual rose. Why don't you post this on the Discussions site to see if you can get more responses?

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:35AM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Again, thanks!

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 9:43AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

You posted this on the Conversations site. Why don't you try to re-post it on the Discussions site? You might get more responses there.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:36AM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Thanks Sammy - as it happened, I put one in the bed and one in a pot in the shed. Both seemed to survive the winter (amazingly) but three weeks after transplanting it to the bed, the potted AF upped and quit. The other one is doing fine, if a little slow to get started. In the future I'll post this sort of thing on Discussions. :)

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 9:43AM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

I planted a potted grafted Bull's Eye this year. Compared with other roses planted at the same time, BE is quite short. So, not very vigorous growth so far. Healthy though, and I really like the flowers. The yellow does fade to white but the eye is prominent and maintains its color.

Seil, have you noticed on yours, that the flowers close up at night and reopen in the day?

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 6:20AM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

I got this one this year too and love it. I like how it fades to white, and how the eye goes from cranberry to violet - I like the effect of different colours of blooms in the same spray.

Can't really comment on the vigour as almost all of my roses are new this year, but I've been pleased with the growth so far. It's not super tall but it is green, bushy, and healthy looking.

Ratdogheads, I do notice that the blooms close up at night and reopen in the day.


Karen

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 9:38AM
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cecily(7 VA)

How much summer rain do you receive (in an average year, if there is such a thing...)? My roses have not had a single basal break this year and I'm definitely concerned but we don't get much summer rain and if I put down alfalfa now, the basals won't come until Sept/Oct which is kinda late to harden off before winter. I'm just going to water, water, water.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 8:06AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Cecily's comment is really important for those of us with real cane-killing winters.

I've looked at pictures of my roses in 2013 and I've seen them this year, and the intervening winter did a real job on them. This year, grow/regrow the roots. Next year, the roots will grow the canes.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 8:13AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

You might try to post this on the Discussions site instead of the conversations. Also listing your zone may give you more responses.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:33AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Have you considered posting this on the Discussion site instead of the conversations? You might get more responses there, especially if you list your zone.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:31AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

You have not received responses to your post, and I live in zone 7A. Since you live in Minnesota, have you considered finding your nearest rose society, and asking for a consulting rosarian or posting this on the Discussions site of the GW?

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:29AM
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tigerloveroses

Wow,fantastic roses.i

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 1:04AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

No roses here yet. :( Still waiting. Not even my peonies have bloomed yet. Sigh.
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Your roses are stunning!!!! Oh wow!!
I just love MIP, Paul Neyron and Love Song. Such full old fashioned blooms. Love, love, love them!!

Joseph's Coat really does have a lot of colors. So pretty!!
Thanks!
Carol

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:46AM
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tigerloveroses

I have kind of the same thing with a store bought "tornement of roses" rose.and I doubt it had rrd or caught one with the other ones untouched.the new leaves look strange,but then I saw some other roses with the same kind of growth.the flowers look fine.i would also wait and see.from what I read,the thing with rrd is that it doesn't change color fro red to green.while yours look green-ish

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 1:13AM
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rosybunny

Karolina, I want to let you know that a few of my roses have been doing the exact same thing this year--I think it's the extreme dry heat we've been getting all spring. When spring started, the roses threw out nice long canes to try to bloom, I took off most buds, after that, they began to grow these short candelabra canes with flower buds on top. I'm pretty sure it's not a disease, I think probably just less than ideal growing condition/environment, I'm hoping we will get a cool and wet fall/winter so the roses can get a break from being constantly pushed to grow and bloom, poor things. Anyways if you go to the webpage I'm attaching here, you can see the leaves on that obviously very healthy rose's candelabra canes are different from the big leaves, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Same with the masses of thorns.

Deer damage can also cause candelabra growth, it happened to my Martina Mondadori.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pruning Candelabras

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:01AM
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seil zone 6b MI

There are a lot of roses that change color with the temperatures and amount of sunlight. Some of them can do so dramatically like Double Delight. Those are called "phototropic". Here are 4 photos of the same bloom on my Double Delight taken over one 24 hr period.

And yet another look for Double Delight
(excuse the greetings, lol!)

As you can see it has many faces.

A lot of people will tell you that their fall roses seem more vibrant in color because of the cooler temps. Many others will tell you how their roses can be pale images of their normal selves in the high heat of summer. There are MANY roses that will do this to some degree or another. It's perfectly normal and, for me anyway, is part of their charm!

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:43PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Thanks Seil for posting those beautiful pictures. I wish I knew what rose mine is & that I had a camera to send pictures with. Unfortunately, the people who have iphones that could take some pictures I rarely see. Sigh..... Anyway, these particular roses always open with a myriad of colors, Yellow, medium orange & rimmed with a deep orange. As they open more, the get lighter, but never went from all yellow to all cantaloupe. Pretty though.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 10:17PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you all!

Yes, buford, that's exactly what mine did during the spring. It seems to be growing out of it now that the weather is settling down though.

I like to do the stages because you get a better idea what to expect from a rose. None of them just appear at perfect exhibition form and then stay there, lol!

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:00PM
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dizzylizzy415

Mine was slow to get started, but blooming nicely now. I adore it's ever changing nature.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 7:52PM
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donnaroe

Edited to add that I also saw Disneyland rose. Read reviews online and while the flower is pretty, it is said to get black spot pretty easily. Any comments on that one would be welcome too.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 6:50PM
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