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cecily(7 VA)

How much summer rain do you receive (in an average year, if there is such a thing...)? My roses have not had a single basal break this year and I'm definitely concerned but we don't get much summer rain and if I put down alfalfa now, the basals won't come until Sept/Oct which is kinda late to harden off before winter. I'm just going to water, water, water.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 8:06AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

Cecily's comment is really important for those of us with real cane-killing winters.

I've looked at pictures of my roses in 2013 and I've seen them this year, and the intervening winter did a real job on them. This year, grow/regrow the roots. Next year, the roots will grow the canes.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 8:13AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

You might try to post this on the Discussions site instead of the conversations. Also listing your zone may give you more responses.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:33AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

Have you considered posting this on the Discussion site instead of the conversations? You might get more responses there, especially if you list your zone.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:31AM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

You have not received responses to your post, and I live in zone 7A. Since you live in Minnesota, have you considered finding your nearest rose society, and asking for a consulting rosarian or posting this on the Discussions site of the GW?

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 7:29AM
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tigerloveroses

Wow,fantastic roses.i

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 1:04AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

No roses here yet. :( Still waiting. Not even my peonies have bloomed yet. Sigh.
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Your roses are stunning!!!! Oh wow!!
I just love MIP, Paul Neyron and Love Song. Such full old fashioned blooms. Love, love, love them!!

Joseph's Coat really does have a lot of colors. So pretty!!
Thanks!
Carol

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:46AM
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tigerloveroses

I have kind of the same thing with a store bought "tornement of roses" rose.and I doubt it had rrd or caught one with the other ones untouched.the new leaves look strange,but then I saw some other roses with the same kind of growth.the flowers look fine.i would also wait and see.from what I read,the thing with rrd is that it doesn't change color fro red to green.while yours look green-ish

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 1:13AM
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rosybunny

Karolina, I want to let you know that a few of my roses have been doing the exact same thing this year--I think it's the extreme dry heat we've been getting all spring. When spring started, the roses threw out nice long canes to try to bloom, I took off most buds, after that, they began to grow these short candelabra canes with flower buds on top. I'm pretty sure it's not a disease, I think probably just less than ideal growing condition/environment, I'm hoping we will get a cool and wet fall/winter so the roses can get a break from being constantly pushed to grow and bloom, poor things. Anyways if you go to the webpage I'm attaching here, you can see the leaves on that obviously very healthy rose's candelabra canes are different from the big leaves, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Same with the masses of thorns.

Deer damage can also cause candelabra growth, it happened to my Martina Mondadori.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pruning Candelabras

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 2:01AM
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seil zone 6b MI

There are a lot of roses that change color with the temperatures and amount of sunlight. Some of them can do so dramatically like Double Delight. Those are called "phototropic". Here are 4 photos of the same bloom on my Double Delight taken over one 24 hr period.

And yet another look for Double Delight
(excuse the greetings, lol!)

As you can see it has many faces.

A lot of people will tell you that their fall roses seem more vibrant in color because of the cooler temps. Many others will tell you how their roses can be pale images of their normal selves in the high heat of summer. There are MANY roses that will do this to some degree or another. It's perfectly normal and, for me anyway, is part of their charm!

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:43PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Thanks Seil for posting those beautiful pictures. I wish I knew what rose mine is & that I had a camera to send pictures with. Unfortunately, the people who have iphones that could take some pictures I rarely see. Sigh..... Anyway, these particular roses always open with a myriad of colors, Yellow, medium orange & rimmed with a deep orange. As they open more, the get lighter, but never went from all yellow to all cantaloupe. Pretty though.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 10:17PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you all!

Yes, buford, that's exactly what mine did during the spring. It seems to be growing out of it now that the weather is settling down though.

I like to do the stages because you get a better idea what to expect from a rose. None of them just appear at perfect exhibition form and then stay there, lol!

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:00PM
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dizzylizzy415

Mine was slow to get started, but blooming nicely now. I adore it's ever changing nature.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 7:52PM
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donnaroe

Edited to add that I also saw Disneyland rose. Read reviews online and while the flower is pretty, it is said to get black spot pretty easily. Any comments on that one would be welcome too.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 6:50PM
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roseseek(9)

It's some sort of rodent. The cat wouldn't pay attention to the roses normally, but it WOULD have been attracted to a rodent eating your flowers. Kim

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 12:39PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I wouldn't rule out rabbits either it those are in your neighborhood. I've seen them climb into my pots to feast too!

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Most roses LOVE to grow and bloom! The length of time it takes for them to recycle depends on the variety. Shrubs, polyanthas and floribundas are probably the quickest repeaters but most won't have the exhibition form. Miniatures and Minifloras will repeat quicker than Hybrid Teas or Grandifloras as a rule. As a general rule of thumb an HT will take 6 to 8 weeks to rebloom.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:21PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Love your Bees Knees. Wish I had extra space to add it to my garden.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 12:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

thanks everyone!

Opened fully they're under 2 inches across, Jim.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 1:39PM
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laura242424

'Aloha' is my best climber in part shade (of course in my zone it doesn't climb; it dies back to 1' in the winter and only gets to 3' tall by fall).

It doesn't need much care, and the blooms have a really nice form and smell nice and last a long time.

Aloha is pink; there's also an Apricot sport called 'Dixieland Linda' that I really want.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2014 at 6:30PM
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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

The Alnwick Rose and Darcey Bussell are both doing beautifully for me in afternoon shade. Carding Mill too.
Of course I'm in a ridiculously dry climate .. not lovely moist Tennessee.
Sylvia

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 11:47AM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

That picture of Peace is amazing!!! I always think of Peace as - well, it sort of looks pretty. But yours is BEAUTIFUL!!!!

Love the strong colors of Sunsprite and Belinda's Dream. Mmmmm!
Carol

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 1:26AM
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bunnicula03(z6b NJ)

Thanks for sharing your roses! I grew Sunsprite many years ago, the color was always so bright and cheerful. You gotta love the floriferous floribundas!

My mother-in-law, now deceased, used to have several older Peace bushes in front of her house. She would tell me that they were the most beautiful rose. I mentally poo-pooed her thinking, never having seen them, in favor of the newer varies pouring out from J & P and other rose breeders in the 1970s. I went to visit her one time when her roses happened to be in bloom. Her Peace roses were magnificent! The color, size, and form were just perfect. Then I knew why Peace was loved by so many. I always meant to put one in my garden, but alas, still haven't...

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 11:20AM
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Just Joeycoming back from the crud.
Posted by deervssteve(9) June 28, 2014
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh they look beautiful!!!
Mine are on their 3rd year - I hope this year when they bloom that they have scent. No scent the previous years.

No idea about the crud.
Carol

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 1:23AM
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deervssteve(9)

Mine was planted this year. No scent. The crud was a mixture of PM and rust.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 11:03AM
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