22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses


Yes, that is Brother Cadfael. As you grow in experience growing roses, you will see that depending on the age of the bush, the weather, the soil, water, food, etc., they can and will surprise you. The older the rose (that is, the type of rose, not the specific bush) the more variable they can be, in my experience.
I have old tea roses which can vary in color, size of bloom, shape of bloom (!), etc., all depending on the season & weather. I love that they do that. Here is a picture of my rose which varies the most in color - it is the old tea rose 'Anna Olivier'. Normally its blooms are buff with a sort of brick color splotch on the reverse of the petals, but as you can see from this picture, the blooms can also be pale yellow or pale pink. The buds are normally a pale pink, but the ones in this picture are much darker.
If you look at any rose on HMF which has lots of pictures, you will usually see this sort of variability, even in some modern roses. Since the Austin roses were bred with some old types originally, perhaps it is not surprising to see some variability.
Jackie



Do remember that this is not a public forum--GW can set whatever parameters it wishes because it "owns" it.
Over the years, they have tended to discourage conversations that include the topic of banned posters.
On the other hand, I was a bit surprised to see a "gossipy" thread on this forum. Those usually do appear over on the Conversation side.
Not that I personally care much, one way or another, however.
Kate
This post was edited by dublinbay on Fri, Jun 27, 14 at 11:11

I wonder if the ban on a certain California grower still exists? Long after 'Spike' sold GW (Spike loathed that grower because Spike thought that the grower was trying to publicize his selling roses in his signature line, which he was), any mention of that grower still set off bells and whistles and got zapped, fast.


No surprise to me. It has been in NJ (and PA) for a very long time. Ann and Larry Peck came to visit one of our district conventions years ago, and Ann gave a wonderful talk. One of our younger district members helped with some research, but still nothing new to "crack the case".






Sara-Ann, I work back in the mail room. We print 9 papers for different towns here in N.E. GA. I only work Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday 1/2 day. Some weeks can really get crazy. My home rose garden is my relaxation. Taking care of the garden at the office is simple.

Ken - Your situation is quite different than mine. We are one of the newspapers that have our paper printed elsewhere, pretty common for the smaller ones. I can definitely understand how your rose garden is your relaxation. Even with where I work being a small weekly, back in the old days it could get hectic. Modern technology has changed that by speeding up the process.

Vinegar is a herbicide! Oil and soap can burn foliage in hot weather. Please do not use these jackleg kitchen-pantry mixtures that you might see on the internet. In the eastern US, powdery mildew is usually not a severe problem and is easily controlled.
Probably your plants will recover just fine if you are patient and do not "help" them too much. Just water thoroughly every 4-7 days depending on the weather and when the soil surface is dry-ish. Put down a 2" layer of mulch.Don't fertilize until they are growing out happily, and then use less than the label recommends. Best wishes, and come back for advice any time.

If they have no leaves and it is hot, it would help to give them some shade for the heat of the day, not super pretty but a plastic chair over the plant is an easy way.
There are some home mixes that are probably fine on your roses, but if you find one you want to try, ask here first. Usually some one has already tired it and either knows it works or it doesn't. There are a lot of "organic" mixes posted out there but people often leave out big details on usage and side effects on different plants and how they effect the long term overall health of your garden.
Seems like many of the rose issues we have on my coast could be helped with a spray of water no need for other additives :)




"I was lucky enough to get a few from Two Sisters before they closed. So sad."
You can still order from Two Sisters, even though they've officially closed. They still have quite a few roses left. Just send an email.
I have always envied central Californians their proximity to Reagans and their convenience at shopping a middle man who has brought together a huge collection of interesting roses.
If we lose them, it will hurt the producers who have had a known number of sales. That's bad. Yes, I can still go to the original producers, but I want the producers to have as healthy a business as possible.
Without knowing what percentage of their business is walk in vs. mail and ship bare roots, it's impossible to guess where they might go. There are parts of the country where land prices aren't as dear; but how many such places have so many rose fanatics ready to buy roses?
No easy answers.