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seil zone 6b MI

In CT I'd wait until spring. You'll need to prune them then anyway and if you time the transplant right in the early spring they'll wake up in their new spots and never know they were moved. You want them to have as much canes with stored energy in them as possible coming out of winter.

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catsrose(VA 6)

Thank you, Henry!!!

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nastarana(5a)

A rose mentioned in the text, Persane, seems quite beautiful in its' one HMF photo. HMF lists no sellers for this yellow HT anywhere in the world. Does anyone here know more about Persane?

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Forgot to mention a few roses I love that bloom great here in North Georgia. The Alnwick Rose, Carding Mill, Heaven on Earth, Gruss, Quietness and Cream Veranda. Those seem to be my favorite, at the moment, and they all have slowed down right now but bloom consistently all summer!!! Oh boy!! I'm soooo excited for you. Keep posting pics!! Judy

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Belinda's Dream can get quite tall, to 5 feet or more, so you'd have to be careful with placement. Bishop's Castle is a beautiful and fragrant Austin rose that does very well in the heat. It can spread but I keep mine trimmed short, to about 3 feet, and it still keeps on blooming. Carding Mill is another great hot-weather rose.

I agree with hoovb; you have so much room that a wide border of roses and other plants would be beautiful and have a lot of impact. I wouldn't have just roses. As beautiful as they are, they can become boring planted en masse without anything to lend contrast to their shapes and colors. Bolero and Julia Child are both very good roses, with a nice bushy shape and lots of bloom. Boxwood hedges are very attractive but can be labor-intensive with all the trimming to keep them tidy looking.

With all that room you might want to visit the Antique Roses Forum and find out about roses that can grow to 10 x 10 feet and more with time, depending on your climate. There are on-line nurseries, such as Roses Unlimited, that have wonderful choices of mostly antique roses that would look perfect with your style of house. Once you begin with roses it can quickly become an absorbing passion, especially with the fascinating older roses.

Ingrid

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buford(7 NE GA)

A better bet for roses would be a consulting rosarian. Your local rose society will have names and contact info.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

It may be different elsewhere, but in my general area many Consulting Rosarians are only really versed in modern roses.

Jeri

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vmr423(Zone 8b, SC)

I know I will be getting roses from her at some point soon- how could I resist such great prices, selection and service? I don't have much of a budget for plants, but feel that it's important to try and support the small vendors while they're still here.

I worked for a good many years for several independent bookstores in several different cities... all gone now, as are too many of the Indies in this country... I know whereof I speak.

Virginia

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I keep a list under the computer mat on my desk with a Burling list.

She has sent out nice plants, for much less and far faster than any of the other vendors I have bought from this fall. They might be smaller bands, but the bigger gallons from 2 vendors have not been that much better it would be worth buying from them. Except for them having something she does not carry.

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sandandsun(9a FL)

And then there's also that pretty well kept secret ADR winner that didn't get an alluring name change when it came to the US.

In the creamy light yellow category:

Here is a link that might be useful: 'Karl Ploberger Rose'

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SCMG

Just wondering-are you saying you do not use any fungicide at all? I kept my Julia Child blackspot free through summer last year because I used a systemic. However, this year I tried not using anything and got lots of blackspot by mid summer.
I am in SC, we have lots of heat, humidity and usually frequent rains.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

These smooth splits are pretty common on some varieties, and I think they are caused simply by the cane growing too fast. (Raggedy splits, on the other hand, are caused by cicadas laying eggs.) The rose has already healed the split. If the cane is supporting healthy top growth, I wouldn't do anything. It seems to be old enough to have a chance of surviving winter, but you'll have to wait and see next spring.

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poppy_pa_6b

jerijen:I hadn't thought about Elmer's Glue, even though I use it when pruning, but I think that would be a good precaution to anything taking up residence there.

seil:Fingers crossed Eden does make it through the winter. It's in a protected location and prior to purchasing it I had read that others in my zone had success overwintering it year after year. We'll see : )

michaelg:I think I will take the wait and see approach since it is healthy. The Moo Poo Tea this summer may have spurred on the growth spurt. Maybe too much of a good thing. I'm learning.

Thanks All for your help. I appreciate it!

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predfern(z5 Chicago)

Louise Odier does not repeat very well but the blooms smell nice. Brother Cadfael finally died after about 5 years. I got one good bloom from it the entire time.

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ratdogheads(5b NH)

I didn't like Brother Cadfael and did not keep him. It was a modernish looking plant that didn't blend well with surrounding OGRs. The real killer though was balling. Not a single bloom ever opened. Not a good choice for a humid climate.

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floridarosez9

In hot, humid central Florida, the roses on your list that have done well for me are: Belinda's Dream, Clotilde Soupert, Cl., Cecile Brunner, cl., Fields of the Wood, Mrs. BRC, SDLM, Cl., Sombreuil, and Don Juan. Mrs. Isaac Perriere and Abraham Darby were so so. Eden was terrible. The rest I have not tried.

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LeBlossom(Viet Nam)

- thanks floridarsez9 for your feedback on the roses : )
- thanks ken-n, I'll try with fresh fish when potting up the roses. I think it's better than package fish emulsion. Also, I prefer organic gardening. And we ve got a lot of rice hulls here. You know a lot about my country, have you been to Ho Chi Minh, ken?

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jerijen(Zone 10)

'Prospero' doesn't "nod."

It's a shorter, very upright rose. And unlike many of its larger Austin-bred cousins, it blooms continuously in my mild, coastal SOCAL climate. It's good in a vase, too, and for us is very disease-resistant.

Jeri

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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

I bought 3 Tamoras last year and they are all thriving. I find the scent very attractive, but hard to describe in words. If you have Carding Mill, that has a similar scent.

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misterleadfoot_z9(Z8/Z9)

My red climbing rose is in full bloom right now. Is it only climbers that bloom in fall?

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seil zone 6b MI

After coming out of really bad conditions and starting to put on new growth it's not unusual for a rose to bloom in your zone in the fall. I'm glad to hear it's recovered for you.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I have grown Queen of Sweden but not Queen Anne. I'm not sure anyone in the USA has Queen Anne--don't think it is offered here. (I might be wrong--but doublecheck.) Are you sure you were looking at the American site?

Right off hand--comparing the English site's description of Queen Anne with the Queen of Sweden growing in my garden, I'd say the main differences are height--QofS is 4-5 ft tall in my garden whereas Queen Anne is evidently a shorter rose; Qof S has very good disease-resistance whereas Queen Anne probably does not (when Austin says nothing about how "healthy" the plant is that is usually a clue that you may have to spray it to control blackspot); and the pink bloom of QofS is highlighted in the center with a faint blush of pastel apricot whereas Queen Anne is solid pastel pink. QofS also has what I think is called a "cupped" bloom (very attractive) whereas Queen Anne does not, but I don't know how to describe her shape. The only somewhat negative thing I can think of about QofS is that she is rather slow on the re-bloom in hot weather and she seems to like a bit more water than most of my other roses.

If you are interested in a somewhat darker pink rose that is shorter than QofS, check out Princess Anne (on the American site). She sounds terrific--if I had any space left, I'd try her out.

Kate

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Mountie(6b)

Thank you for your response, Kate. I learned about Queen Anne rose from my 2014 David Austin catalog (15th USA Edition), so that's how I know that she is available here.

I have considered the beautiful Princess Anne rose, which you suggested, but have read, on a thread or two, that she is "uber thorny", as opposed to Queen Anne and Queen of Sweden, who have few thorns. I believe that I am ready to deal with a few thorns, but not with "uber thorny"!

You made a good point about disease-resistance. When David Austin does not comment on the healthiness and disease-resistance of a particular rose, I have to wonder about it. However, I believe that all of the roses that he has bred, in very recent years, are probably healthier than many of those that he introduced years ago. If a rose is featured in the main collection of the current catalog, I feel that it is worthy for me to give it a try.

Another pink rose that captures my attention is Lady Salisbury. I simply cannot resist the description and photo of her "matt" green leaves. (This is a description that D.A. seldom uses in his books and catalogs.) Foliage and growth style is every bit as important to me as the blooms.

Thank you for your input on Queen of Sweden. She is very appealing to me! I have read many good things about her on this forum. : )

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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

I don't know where that would be, but I know it's not at my house.

Ingrid

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rhiana21

I agree with Windeaux. The best roses and rose gardens I have ever seen was on a trip to New Zealand. They are very proud of their rose gardens, and rightfully so.

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summersrhythm_z6a

I have had Knockout roses in my garden for about 6/7 years, they have been hardy here in zone 6a without any winter protection, but last winter was the worst of all, I lost a few of them, and a lot of them had dieback to smaller size-just like the one on the left in the photo, and my double Knockouts have midge issue this growing reason, didn't bloom much, and some them have never bloomed. I am getting a trailer mulch for my roses at the end of Nov. Hoping for a warmer winter.

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summersrhythm_z6a

I also had rabbit damage last winter, I had to cut off roses below the damage, that's another reason roses are short this season, not all due to the weather.

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