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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

In eastern zone 7, cercospora spot is more likely than spot anthracnose and affects a greater range of varieties. Bayer tebuconazole does not control these diseases, but mancozeb or chlorothatlonil (Daconil) may be useful. However, I just let these diseases go as they are not going to totally defoliate the roses and they don't spread much in hot weather.

We had a severe freeze in mid-April which did a lot of damage. Also the harsh winter may have done damage to the canes that you are not used to seeing.

Just be sure the roses get adequate but not excessive water and fertilizer and they will probably recover.

It is normal for some roses to suffer iron deficiency while others in similar soil do not. Give these roses some iron sufate, or whatever you prefer, every spring.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 11:18AM
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amylou321

Thanks for your help. I guess all I can do now is watch and wait....If all else fails i have an excuse for buying new rose bushes next year! :)

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 6:20PM
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bendipa

My current favorite rose is A Whiter Shade Of Pale which not only looks good but has an outstanding scent. The bloom turns pure white after a couple of days.

This post was edited by bendipa on Sat, Jun 21, 14 at 17:54

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 5:48PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Bendipa - I can understand why that would be a current favorite, it is gorgeous! I'll have to keep it in mind.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 6:05PM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

Kate,

Your Oklahoma is gorgeous!!!

Lynn

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 4:08PM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

I love love love Oklahoma. And Mr. Lincoln. The only fragrant red I've ever grown that meets the requirements would be Barcelona/Francis Dubreuil. This is a bullet proof rose. Slow to grow, like a tea. But the color is gorgeous and the scent is to die for. I'm getting almost continuous bloom at this time in the season.
Susan

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 6:01PM
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Please Identify...ASAPThanks in advance
Posted by gardenlady48(z5 IL) June 21, 2014
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phasedweasel(7b)

The chance of a useful ID will be increased greatly if you also provide more info, such as the growth habit and shape of the plant, where you found / have it, known repeat flowering characteristics, fragrance, flower grouping, size, etc?

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 5:10PM
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Dinglehopp3r z7A. EastTN

I can't help you but the people who can will probably ask you to post a picture of the whole bush and a close up of the foliage.

Good luck!

Jessica

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 3:49PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Snip or break off the spent blooms. I would leave a few and see if they set hips (fruit). If this variety does not set hips, then there is no need to deadhead. (Hips consume energy that should be going into growth and more blooms). The plant will bloom again in six weeks,

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 1:58PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Try alfalfa tea for a boost! I add Epson salt and fertilizer (Miracle Grow, Peter's, or Monty's Joy Juice) to the tea when it's time to use it.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 10:13PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Wrong address for your link, Henry.
See the correct link below.

Here is a link that might be useful: TEMPERATURE EFFECTS ON VIRUS BEHAVIOR

    Bookmark     June 21, 2014 at 8:06AM
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poorbutroserich(Nashville 7a)

Thanks Kim. If I cannot do this after your "budding for dummies" in depth post then surely I'm not meant to do so.
I've saved all the instructions to "my clippings".
You are a great asset and mentor to this novice and I appreciate the time you take to encourage and inspire us newbies!!!!!!
Susan

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 8:24PM
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roseseek(9)

Hi Susan, you're welcome! I hope it helps. Thank you! The first, most important thing to remember is, don't let it intimidate you. If it doesn't work the first time, do it again. If the buds dry out, you didn't have cambium to cambium contact or the stocks either went dry or weren't actively growing. I'm soaking them in a basin of water for a few days prior to budding to make good and sure the sap IS flowing and that they don't dry out. There are only just a few inches of water in the basins in which they sit, so there is little chance of soil souring.

Practice with stuff you don't care about. Murphy will insure they ALL take. If you have any suckers or climbing growth you want to eliminate, practice removing buds and making cuts on those. Once you're comfortable you have some idea of what you're doing, start actually budding some things to see how many take. Now should be the perfect time in most of our areas as the plants are actively growing. With practice, you'll be amazed at how small material you can slice up and bud successfully. It honestly is NOT all that difficult. It simply requires practice and the self confidence which comes from practice and a few successes. None of us is ever going to succeed ALL of the time. Trospero admitted even he has some which thumb their noses at him. Burling has some which don't make it. If THEY can have buds fail, why can't we? So, fix yourself an iced tea, get everything together in a shady, comfortable spot and have a go at it. I think you'll enjoy yourself! Good luck! Kim

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 8:55PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

'Fair Bianca' never got above 12 inches tall in my part of Southern California. I can't easily imagine it being "out of control."

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 7:24PM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

I didn't say they were "out of control". They are just getting floppier. I had some die-back in the back due to our horrible Winter in Milw., WI. Maybe that is why they are leaning more forward this season. Put a bamboo stick in the back of the Fair Bianca & tied with the biodegradeable twine.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 7:34PM
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ordphien(9)

This was interesting and it didn't quite come out right.
But these are the colours as how they appear from further back to me.
The one colour I see most often I have no pictures of.
Go figure.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 4:16PM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

Ordphien,

Thank you. This rose is so unusual compared to the much of what I see. I find myself drawn to it. The comments on this thread, and your images have been helpful.

Lynn

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 7:24PM
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RachaelLemmon(5)

There are some perfectly round small holes in the leaves and some in the smaller buds .. The tan areas do have a lace appearance . Is there anything I can use to deter these insects? This particular rose doesn't get bayer product and such because it's very close to many of my nectar plants and also some lady bug favorites, so I try not to spray it for insects , just disease. I have milkweeds/ yarrow/ joe pye just beyond this bed and I'm very careful not to spray near my butterfly plants.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 3:06PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

You have to look on the underside of the affected leaves to see if they are still there. Probably not.

Most of us have rose slugs every year. Wasps and other predators usually control them. Next spring, watch for the damage and wipe the tiny worms off the underside with your thumb. If you can't keep up with that, spray the affected areas with a spinosad product, reaching the underside of the leaves with thorough coverage.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 3:48PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It does bloom in big sprays for the most part but occasionally there are single ones too.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 2:50PM
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boncrow66

Seil yours is beautiful!

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 2:56PM
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hartwood

North central VA, first beetle spotted on the 14th. There are a few more out there now, but not bad ... yet.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 12:29PM
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seil zone 6b MI

My friend up north has them now but I haven't seen any here yet. (KNOCK WOOD!!!)

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 1:28PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I planted a new Thomas Affleck rose in May and I notice its getting some powdery mildew on it. Actually first rose I ever seen with PM here...

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 11:33AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Definitely more than one thing going on here. For PM you can get a fungicide spray. It will keep it from getting worse but the leaves already with it on them will not clear up. You'll need to wash those off. Just use a good hard spray of water and that will also help to dislodge the rose slugs that are putting holes in the leaves. Make sure to spray up under the leaves to get the back sides where the slugs are.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 1:27PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Chance are they'll just send up new ones so don't be oo sad.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 11:41PM
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flaurabunda(6a, Central IL)

I've had the same problem this spring. Had to prune the dickens out of everyone, and there's very minimal new growth from the canes I left. Most (about 90%) of the new growth were new canes from the graft, and on the plants exposed to the highest wind velocities I have lost over 70% of each of those new canes.

I tried to blame it on critters, but after the 3rd go-around I was able to stand on the deck & watch the damage occur on the last bout of storms.

    Bookmark     June 20, 2014 at 11:53AM
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