22,796 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Don't panic until next spring--if it doesn't start growing and blooming then. Right now--it is trying to get ready for winter by working on its roots.

Kate

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ehlerslw

thanks for the replies.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Go by the look and growing habit. Simple. :-)

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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Bloom size, growth habit. If it's a duck, call it a duck. Not a chicken or cow. Kinda late for a LOT of modern roses now.

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Mine seems to last a few days, but kind of slow on the rebloom

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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Mine last a few days and are pretty , but my complaint is it blooms at the end of the canes and I don't really care for that . A lotta plant with just a few blooms . However mine hadn't matured yet so hopefully it will outgrow that .

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kstrong

Yep -- it's still my favorite red hybrid tea for a coastal clime. And I've grown most of the red hybrid teas that are available commercially, looking for a good one.

Kathy

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Love the picture of Oscar!

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subk3

How interesting. Ann your posts seem to be sending me on google treks lately!

Here is a link that might be useful: A previous discussion of facination on GW

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buford(7 NE GA)

I had a rose cane like that before, it appeared as if two canes merged into one. I thought it was fascination. I honestly forget which rose it was, but it didn't come down with RRD.

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Madame Butterfly 2Then when the buds open you get this.
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dove_song(WA State Z6b)

Lynnette, such a lovely photo; she looks beautiful!! Would love to smell her refined & complex perfume as described by Michaelg. :)

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oooooh!!!!! Sounds amazing!!! I'm going to keep an eye out for that one!!!
Carol

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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely rose and photos! I like mine very much too and can add that it's winter hardy as well.

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Those leaves are incredibly green and shiny!!!
Dick Clark looks really pretty. I really love your close up!!
Carol

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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

The same mulching I used in Fl., I now use it up here in N.E. GA. It's a little work in the spring but the results are fantastic. I get my pine needles from Lowes for about $3.50 a bale (then 10% discount for military vet). Oak leaves I get from me and both neighbors. I also use the oak leaves for winter protection in the garden.

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saldut

I get shredded tree mulch from a local tree-service, they bring me truck-loads for FREE...and free is good! It's cheaper for them than paying at the land-fill....and they bring oak or pine, not junk stuff... I have a huge pile in my drive-way right now, waiting to be hauled off to my beds....sally

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seil zone 6b MI

If a cane is exceedingly tall, like over 5 or 6 feet and sticks out above the majority of the rest of the plant, you could trim it down to the height of the rest of that bush. That way it won't blow around and possibly break over winter. But wait to do this until after the plant has gone dormant. Otherwise for any hard pruning it's best to do it in the spring.

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zeak8892(zone 6)

got it. that's very helpful.

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mendocino_rose(z8 N CA.)

De La Grifferai is beautiful. Odorata, another rootstock is a lovely(and tough) rambler. I think that Dr. Huey is much maligned. Watered and cared for it is a lovely dark red rambler. Mine even has some rebloom.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Rootstocks of grafted hybrid teas from 2011 are almost all either 'Dr. Huey' or multiflora. The OP can tell which by looking at the foliage. Dr. H is dark and glossy, while multiflora is lighter green and matte. Multiflora is useless as a garden plant. Dr. H is pretty in spring, but, in eastern North America, it will be bloomless and naked from blackspot all summer and fall unless it is sprayed every two weeks.

This post was edited by michaelg on Thu, Oct 2, 14 at 9:31

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

So gorgeous! Love it!!

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh how sweet!!!
Reminds me of Morden Blush.
Love it!!
Carol

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I'm not rereading the whole thread to see if it was posted here, nor do I remember where the information came from, but fairly recently a science-based source indicated that exposure to the sun actually does encourage new growth from old wood. Previously I had suspected this was one of the many false beliefs that gardeners share with each other, but not so. Thus, prune to open the center, pull back the mulch a little bit, and if necessary remove crowded lower leaves. Of course these actions would have no effect on a buried graft, but shoots from low on a thick cane are nearly as good.

Otherwise it's mostly a matter of keeping the plant happy with good basic nutrition and watering. Basal canes are more likely to be produced during mild weather in spring and fall. Rejuvenation pruning where you remove 1/4 or 1/3 of the canes at the base will encourage basal growth. But some plants just won't cooperate. Currently I have an old hybrid tea with only two basal canes. It's still very productive, but eventually I may have to take it down to nothing in order to rejuvenate it (or maybe ruin it).

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buford(7 NE GA)

Michael, I may have posted that. I have noticed that a graft or root ball exposed to sun will throw off more basals. Sometimes taht happens when a rose is cut down to the graft, or in the late winter/early summer when there is no leaves on trees and no shade. I get full southern exposure in my front yard and I get some basals breaking in December and January, I try to protect them so they last. I'm not always successful.

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