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jerijen(Zone 10)

We're seeing this, too. But it will get hot and dry eventually. What I dread is the Hot-Humid period coming up tomorrow.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 6:49PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

The hot-humid thing--it's not as bad as I expected. Suppose to be back to good old June-Gloom tomorrow.

It's been so dry for so many years I've forgotten about foliar diseases--perhaps this is a harbinger of the heavy El Nino winter we will get this year. Hey I can dream!

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 5:15PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I always get the RVR mystery roses, and the prevailing one a few years ago was Robin Hood. I checked hmf and both the dark pink and faded blooms are plausible with what was posted there. Of course, you know that I'm poor at rose ID, but I'll post a photo of mine from a few years back for comparison. In the ground, mine have really taken off as well as this one I put in the neighbor's yard (pardon the poor deadheading). They are definitely lanky and sprawly, but in these circumstances it fits.
Cynthia

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 12:28PM
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john_ca(CA US9/SSZ14)

I received a "mystery rose" from RVR a year ago that looks like this. After going through her online catalogue, my best guess is Lovely Fairy.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 4:23PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Ann I've never thank you for writing your Rose Rosette E-book. I've perused it more than you would know. Incredibly helpful back in the day when few where saying anything at all and not any other good information out there. So much misinformation out there even today.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 9:50AM
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kidhorn2

I've had good luck cutting out infected canes. I know what to look for and anything remotely suspicious gets cut. Better to lose a few blooms than an entire bush. If it shows up again or the infection is on more than one cane, the bush gets it.

I used to be surrounded by infected multiflora, but they built a highway and removed almost all the MF. I guess that's one good thing about the highway.

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 10:00AM
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ittayd

But the roses next to this one don't quill (at least, not that much)

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 2:04AM
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ittayd

So, the nursery that develops these roses replied to an email inquiry and said this rose is probably not Don Juan but Oklahoma, and I think it is not even a climber.

Looks like I'll need to uproot it...

    Bookmark     June 9, 2015 at 2:23AM
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Streisand Fan

One more thing, it's actually spelled Barbra.. She took out the third "a" when she was just beginning in show business:)

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 5:50PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I agree with Brittie that the flowers flatten and lose petals in the heat. But I cut Babs in tight buds in Summer and she will slowly open in the vase and retain that classic high centered HT shape. She also flowers a lot in Summer. Wonderful! She is one of the few roses that I can actually smell any fragrance at all in high heat.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 7:56PM
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alisonok

Thank-you for your responses! I am in Western NC and we are a Zone 6. We had a fairly mild winter last year and I haven't had any issues with my other roses. We did have a lot of rain which may have washed some of the soil away from the graft. It used to collect in the area where my climbing rose is until we put in a drain.

I think I will definitely pull it up. I am looking at replacing it with "New Dawn". I have heard it is a very vigorous climber and it has gorgeous blooms. I will look into S&W as well!
Alison

    Bookmark     January 16, 2014 at 11:40AM
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towsonite

I know this was an old post, but I had the same exact thing happen with my Golden Showers. The top died during the 2014 winter, re-emerged but never bloomed in summer 2014, and now it's blooming in 2015. (i.e. no old wood that first year and kstrong was right on the money) Until I found the label showing the yellow rose, I thought I was going nuts when it bloomed maroon. I was smart enough to suspect it was the root stock but admittedly would have been one of those guys tending a Dr. Huey, which certainly doesn't seem to need any of my help the way its growing. Will bury the root stock in the future as suggested.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 7:41PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

The Antique Rose Forum is very good at Austin roses try posting this over there.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 6:58PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

When I first got my White Out many years ago it was introduced as a knockout. They dropped it as a knockout the following year. My White Outs are disease free. I love them. They are always in bloom for me and grow to about 3'x3' every year.

End of last season after several frosts

One of the new ones this year

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 6:01PM
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blueKYstream(6)

My Whiteout Rose blooms probably more than any other rose I have. It's a great "landscape rose" as many would say. It blooms well, but is not a showy flower or fragrant. It isn't technically a knock out rose. My whiteout faces northwest on a slight slope, so it doesn't get as much sun as it should ideally. It stays about 3' x 3'. My mom grows one and it gets maybe 3.5' x 3.5' and stays in a round bush shape for both of us. It does not blackspot, but gets a touch of PM here in KY for me. It certainly doesn't affect its flowering though. All of my roses this year have holes, which I suppose is caused by thrips. This rose is no exception. I lost it during the harsh winter two years ago. I planted another and it survived this past harsh winter with no protection.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 6:25PM
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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

I have to agree with Jacqueline. I have both coral and red in pots that I bought in two gallon pots from a local nursery. Both are already 1.5' tall and 3' wide easily. I'm sure they will continue to get bigger in my climate. I had planned to put them in the front of a flower bed with a HT behind them but since my beds are only 4' deep I've decided that just won't work. I'm glad I bought them and put them in pots to see their growth pattern before putting them in the beds as a border. I would constantly pruning them to keep them off the walkway.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 8:13AM Thanked by towsonite
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rozilla(z9LA)

I've gotten probably 20 of various colors over the last 3 years, and they have done one of two things. They've either gotten far bigger than what you have in mind, or they just died for some unknown reason I've yet to figure out. Pretty little things but check out other options.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 6:21PM Thanked by towsonite
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seil zone 6b MI

I would not use any type of oil unless the temps for the next week are going to be in the low 70s or below. Anything higher than that and your leaves will burn. I have cooked rose leaves with oil solutions at temps of 76 and up.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:34PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I seem to have this problem too. Most of my roses have a few leaves like that but no holes. I just snipped off the leaves. Hopefully that will work.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 4:43PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Thanks rabins,

My son moved to Seattle about 7 months ago...He likes the warmer temps compared to here...

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 5:47PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Well it is supposed to be healthy but it may be the area you live in with different strains of bs. Then again it is a new rose and probably stressed out from transplant. I would wait and see what happens. Just clean up the area of the infected leaves.

On helpmefind website it says that this rose occasional repeat later. Is the repeat very slow?

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 4:40PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I have actually seen bunnies and/or squirrels eat a healthy, well-grown, mature rose all the way to the ground. It's amazing.

Jeri

    Bookmark     May 9, 2013 at 7:02PM
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sockwatts

I mist my rose bush with water and sprinkle blood meal on the foliage. Trust me the deer leave them alone. I have many deer in my neighborhood so I can say this has been tried and tested.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 1:07PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Even 12 x 12 was way too small, in Southern California.

Seil is right, too. "Miniature" means the bloom, not the plant. How big the plant will want to get depends upon the variety. Most of Ralph Moore's roses had a nice compact habit. Some of the Poulsen "pot plants" -- the sort that often turn up at Supermarkets -- seem to be like that, too.

Miniatures popular for exhibition grow long stems, and make tall plants. I have seen 'Jean Keneally' in the ground more than 6-feet tall.

    Bookmark     May 28, 2015 at 5:54PM
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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

I have Cinderella which is a micro-mini. She's doing well in something way too small. Awesome to have something so tiny, most people think it's something else other than a rose. My other miniature is Wonderful News. Should have posted this in the Miniature Section. Oops!

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 12:28PM
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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Thank you everyone. Kentucky, I love the fact that Charles De Gaulle is a true lavender, at least these first blooms are.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 11:42AM
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KarenPA_6b

I love your bloom of Charles de Gaulle. Does it have any scent? Such a beautiful lavender color. Beverly is nice too.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 12:26PM
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allencla

No actually way bigger than that....i am apparently bad at estimating size...5 inches now that i pulled out a ruler

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 9:09AM
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jacqueline9CA

That fits in exactly with the description of FKD on HMF - congratulations on your lovely antique rose from 1901!

Jackie

2 Likes    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 11:37AM Thanked by allencla
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