22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I've been a gardener or around gardens all my life, so it was inevitable I'd grow at least something when I got space of my own. My father grew up on a farm and we always had an extensive vegetable garden in the back as well as fruit trees, and he coached me patiently on techniques in growing those plants (my brother never took to it). My mom planted annuals and other flowers around the yard, and for a short while had some body bag roses that she tried to grow in one patch, but as we've all seen from many of these body bags, they didn't survive long (getting mowed over by my father by mistake probably didn't help). So like most of the world, I grew up with the notion that roses were fussy and not much worth bothering with.

When we bought our first house, I was determined to plant the entire front lawn in flowers and blooming trees, and the nursery recommended some shrub roses as landscaping. I didn't distinguish them much from any of the other shrubs or trees except to note that roses weren't that hard to grow after all. Champlain became my "gateway drug" rose because of this.

When we bought our current house, I was thoroughly hooked on perennials and bulbs and selected a house at least half because of the generous sized yard (with NO Virginia Creeper, curse the stuff!). I planted a Champlain of course, but didn't think much about roses for the first year. Then I got to looking at the main back garden and thinking that it needed more height. Hmmm, roses are bushes, they have height. Enter a local nursery with very reasonably priced HTs and my introduction to David Austin roses as well. Once I appreciated the diversity and still relative ease of most roses, I was truly hooked. Not that I don't love my perennials and bulbs as well, but they don't really take much of my thought any more (and I don't hang out on those GW forums - they're usually easy enough there's not much to talk about). Always plenty to talk about with roses, and the nicest people to boot!

Cynthia

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rabainsz7bpnw

When I was small, I used to visit my favorite aunt wuth a huge rose garden full of only 1 type of red rose . As it bloomed my aunt would collect roses and made rose syrup out of them and then give a big bottle of rosé syrup to my mom. That used be the only summer drink I loved . That's how it started for me. My mom is a gardener too but not for roses. She is into veggies a lot.

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Nicole

Which variety is in your video? It's lovely.

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

Looks good Jim, you should have panned around a bit to show us a bit more of your garden:)

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dregae (IN, zone 6b)

I bought this one first thing this year, poor thing had to live in its pot for months and she still put on a wonderful show for me! I got her planted now and I can't wait to see what she does

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ozmelodye(Z10 S-E Australia)

I hope Meilland send this rose to us in Australia as I think it would be as popular as the original Pierre de Ronsard/ Eden Rose. I told my daughter in Japan that it may be released there and she is very excited, as she loved PdR in my garden and now has 3 of her own.

Melodye

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bethnorcal9

Well, I can tell you, my SIMSALABIM is not a large bloom. Most of them average only about 2" or less. Kinda like ABRACADABRA. They're all more like minifloras.

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Beth, there's a write-up in the Horizon 2015 about this rose.

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seil zone 6b MI

Wow, they're beautiful, Zack! We had that hot stuff earlier in the week and some of my roses fried.

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zack_lau z6 CT

MoonstoneTouch of Class

Pop Warner

Pretty Jessica

Mohana

I haven't watered them since last Sunday--and that was just to avoid burning the leaves when I sprayed them with fungicide.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Austin's Crown Princess Margareta? See Crown Princess Margareta.

More info. at helpmefind.com.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

It does appear as thou it will stay cupped until the petals fall. I just love that flower. What a nice surprise. So many Austin roses have leaves in groups of seven. I think Kate has the right id. with Crown Princess Margareta.

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irisgal_z9

Thanks Sara-Ann. What I suspected. I am very entranced with the form of Michaelangelo and the shade of yellow looks mellow on my monitor. Might be exactly what I've been searching for the last 20 years :-)

Dinglehopp, I am perusing ADR winners and saw Berolina listed so that puts it head and shoulders in health above others. Apparently most strict criteria are applied to achieve ADR status and it can be revoked!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADR_rose

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Superb looking bloom Sara Ann! Hopefully it overwinters just fine for you!

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Thanks for the update.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Great to hear!

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rosecanadian

Oh man!

That's such a shame!!! 50 or 60 roses!!!!!! A lot of work, money and angst.

I can't imagine.

Carol

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

Some of them were one of a kind or ones that I won't be able to purchase anymore. Like my Sheer Stripes from Mike Lowe...

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Great to hear!

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pinkkpearls

Mustbnuts the SS bloomed once, I missed it. Came home to a burnt and withered old bloom :( it is leafing out though, so far is slow, but good.

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seil zone 6b MI

Potted roses have their best chance of survival in an insulated but unheated garage over the winter. They do better off the concrete and you have to water them some through out the winter. It doesn't have to be a lot but they need some water about once a month. When I kept my tree rose in the shed over the winter I used to put a shovelful of snow on them every time we shoveled. That worked pretty well.

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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

When you put them in the ground, you may also want to plant them a bit deeper to give them a head-start on getting through Winter. When I planted the first of my roses here, they went into the native soil level. I built raised beds around them, and added 6-8" of composted shredded tree mulch in mid-Autumn. As it turned out, their first Winter was that harsh "polar vortex" one of 2013-2014. A few -- Chinas and Teas -- were cut to the soil level, or just above, but they had buried cane that was enough to get them going again. As I planted companion perennials the following Spring, I noticed that the roses started generating roots into the mulch layer, which meant that they had nearly 18" of root depth just one year after coming as bands.

My Winters aren't as severe as yours, but what I did worked for the "borderline-hardy" roses I planted. Out of about 75 planted that year, only 2 didn't make it -- 'Jaune Desprez' and "Secret Garden Musk Climber". I didn't replace the former, as I realize that was a bit of a pipe dream here. But I did get a more substantial gallon-sized SGMC, and it made it through last year's almost-as-harsh Winter.

:-)

~Christopher

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susan4952(5)

I also grow love.. Beautiful but quite different from Osiria, whose color is much deeper red. Love is much flatter when opened. How about fire and ice???

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susan4952(5)

My Love

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Dinglehopp3r z7A. EastTN

Here are a few photos I snapped of HGL today

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irisgal_z9

Dinglehopp, I noticed the uneveness in pigment also when I saw it in the spring. I love shaded roses but not this.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

My peach sets hips but my popcorn and sweet and apricot will drop their petals then about 1-2" of the stem will turn brown and fall off a week or so later. You are right Jacqueline , for now she should deadhead until it is established. Courtney, cut the stem right behind where the bloom was.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

courtneythomas, cut off just below the dead blooms or just above the top set of leaves.

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