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Kimberly Baptiste Pickett

I purchased this rose at Mercer Arboretum's March Mart 2 years ago and have NO complaints. Here, close to Houston, with heavy clay in our soil, mine has taken off. No, it's not a very large bush, but it's not supposed to be. Mine blooms continuously, year round, even through winter. Can't wait to start some more from cuttings!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 7:50AM
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Adrianne(7b Georgia)

Well I should report that mine were also more of a Bengal Kitten - pretty wimpy plants. The blooms, however are quite lovely. I moved them last fall and so far they seem to be a little more robust, so hopefully they will be happier in their new location.

Jerijen, I think it's just called Bengal Tiger because money from the sale goes to help save the cat from extinction. It's got a mild striping of colors I suppose tho.

    Bookmark   March 25, 2015 at 7:03AM
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kublakan

Densiemill - What Lowes did you go to? City? I saw the peach one, but it didn't call to me enough to part with my $.

Nanadoll - We get these here from time to time. In the past I've seen mostly Iceberg and Purple Iceberg.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 5:25PM
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densiemill

Kublakan Alpharetta GA suburb of Atlanta

    Bookmark   March 25, 2015 at 12:58AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

You are looking for shrub/floribundas with hybrid tea-like blooms. Is that correct? I'm kinda hard pressed (I am sure some will come to me other than OLoG), but a Grandiflora that sets a lot of blooms is Cherry Parfait. Perhaps another Buck rose, Hawkeye Belle. Oh, one of my faves, Summer Fashion!

    Bookmark   Thanked by imcheetah    March 24, 2015 at 12:34PM
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rosecanadian

This is a good rose. It's called Mother of Pearl. No fragrance which is why I gave it to a friend. It blooms tons. This rose is a young rose. HMF lists it as growing to 4 1/2 feet tall. And says it is prolific. The two pink flowers on the right belong to another rose - the rest is all Mother of Pearl. Carol

    Bookmark   Thanked by imcheetah    March 24, 2015 at 10:02PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If you insist on spraying find an empty Windex spray bottle, put a squirt of dish soap in it and fill with water. Go out and spray the little buggers with that. It will kill them quickly and do far less damage to you or your garden.

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campv

Give me aphids all day long and I will give you my Thrips. Agree with Seil just spray them with dish soap. It will suffocate the guys but you will need to repeat every week they reproduce like crazy. If you have a 1 gal sprayer add one (1) tbl spoon to 1gl of water, mix and spray away. Not in the hot sun and you can use the cheep dollar store dish soap.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 2:06PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I've tried Leonie Lamesch at least once and maybe twice in my zone 5 Nebraska yard. At least once was in full sun and decent protection, so I'd probably rate it as marginally hardy in zone 5 at best. I have it on order again this fall and will give it a more prime location and see if that helps. I'm guessing that its actual hardiness falls somewhere in the zone 6 range, but in a protected spot it might do fine, or with extra winter protection like I provide my teas. Never say never, but I'd be a bit cautious in my zone 5.

Cynthia

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 12:04PM
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jacqueline9CA

Thank you both for the info! I thrives in my zone 9 (actually I think 10 lately) garden, but I was just wondering.... actually, I was wondering about the hardiness of "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" which we think might be 'Eugenie Lamesch', (evidently a lost rose) which was hybridized by the same hybridizer (Peter Lambert) in Germany in the same year (1899) as 'Leonie Lamesch' (Leonie was his wife, and Eugenie her younger sister). I have grown them side by side, and they have exactly the same growth habit, leaves, and bloom form, but the blooms are way different in color, and SSY is entirely thornless, while LL is moderately so.

Jackie

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 1:52PM
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dan8_gw (Northern California Zone 9A)

whoa, nice!!! It looks very classy.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 10:03AM
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seil zone 6b MI

That is a beauty! I'm hoping one of my local nurseries will get this one in this spring.

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 12:07PM
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mariannese

I checked all the links except the one I couldn't get and I am struck! Couldn't believe it's possible to grow such perfect roses in a cold climate. I know I can't. Not that I haven't tried with my only mass planting but there are always irritating gaps after dead roses or plants that are too short to make an impact.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2015 at 2:39AM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

Thanks for posting this one again. Look at all the blooms!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2015 at 1:56AM
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mariannese

I don't quite understand why they are testing these hardy roses in warmer places like Vancouver and Vineland. Isn't Vineland near Niagara on the Lake where they used to grow peaches? One problem with rose growing in northern Scandinavia is not so much the winter cold as the short and cool summer. We are more maritime than continental, at least Norway and most parts of Sweden. Finland and the other Baltic States are more continental as well as Russia, of course. I agree that Russia will probably be the core market for these roses.

    Bookmark   March 23, 2015 at 3:26AM
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prairie_northrose (3a north of Calgary, AB, Canada)

Yes, I agree, Vineland is by Niagara and the area is listed more as a zone 6 according to Canada's plant hardiness map. I did more digging, and came across this other article, which says they are testing at the University of Saskatchewan (they sure make Saskatchewan sound cold, lol) among some other locations:
http://www.aginnovationontario.ca/en/new-canadian-roses-disease-resistant-cold-hardy-and-low-maintenance/

I thought this was neat too, this video shows Vineland's rose testing field. Some of the bushes look pretty vigorous, and there are so many types! :http://globalnews.ca/video/1425222/scientists-try-and-create-a-perfectly-canadian-rose

I agree with the newer varieties lacking in fragrance. I really do hope they preserve that.

I am just glad that they are continuing with a program, and that there are funds for it. I love my roses Winnipeg Parks from the Parkland series, and Emily Carr from the Canadian Artist series, I think it is fantastic how far the selection of roses available for cold zones has grown. Growing up, all I knew was Therese Bugnet and Hansa!

    Bookmark   March 23, 2015 at 1:51PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I wish I could send some water your way Beth! If I could I really would...

Nice pics SoFl! :) I'd be excited right now to just see leaves...lol

    Bookmark   March 20, 2015 at 7:05PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

The 6 inches of snow we got this past Friday is all gone today! wooooo woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 7:44PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

We got 6 inches of snow this past Friday but luckily it melted all today...

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 7:20PM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

First Spring blooms in my garden were seen today -- two Iris reticulata 'Pixie' of the hundred I planted last Autumn. I see signs of the others coming up -- a hundred each of Crocus tommasinianus 'Lilac Beauty', Chionodoxa 'Alba', and Anemone blanda 'Blue Shades' were naturalized with the Iris, planted over a layer of a hundred Narcissus 'Fragrant Mix' in the main rose beds, all from Van Engelen. There's also some Hyacinthoides non-scripta planted with the Gallicas, and Ipheion 'Starry Nights Mix' planted in the full-sun border that are poking through. So signs of life, but thus far only those two Iris blooms.

Oh, and the roses all have swelling buds. "Bermuda Spice" actually kept quite a few green leaves -- being as it was covered in snow for much of the cold part of Winter. But I think they'll be pushed off by new leaves in just a few weeks.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 7:33PM
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rosydreams(10b SoCal sunset zone 19)

Irisgal, your Solitude is (was) just gorgeous, like dawn breaking. And Beth, so many irreplaceable roses, my heart would ache.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 3:45PM
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beaverfoot

Two that I really miss are Just Joey and Mr. Lincoln. I tried to grow both 2 times with no luck. I don`t think they like the Nevada desert.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 5:00PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

You're welcome dear! Wow, you're living in a land of squirrels. I hope you can find a way to control them, so you can have some beautiful blooms.

    Bookmark   Thanked by jennylynn8bswlouisiana    March 21, 2015 at 4:52PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Back when I had the worst case of rose midge my foliage was gorgeous. Should this continue for you or if you see a very reduced bud count rose midge would likely be the reason. Some times you don't see the burn't tips. They can also so bite the tender foliage in the leaf axis where the buds would form. Instead of buds you'll see a black mark where the buds would have formed. Last year was my first sign of midge rearing its head again in a long time. I'm a little worried about what I'll see this year. Either way hope you see those roses soon.

    Bookmark   Thanked by jennylynn8bswlouisiana    March 22, 2015 at 10:22AM
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thorngrower sw. ont. z5

We should all post our top 3 hardy roses. from Zone 6,5,4, Zones swing up and down....I need more information, or just a more stable climate..

    Bookmark   March 21, 2015 at 11:44PM
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stillanntn6b

In total agreement. (but, believe me, Gulf Coastal summers are brutal and they last more than three months.)

What bugs me the most is that some powers in DC can decide to average different years, and all of a sudden, our hopes are up. Only to be dashed by reality.

I've been reading a lot of history, and some of it pertains to our problems with temperatures. You may remember reading about Alexis De Tocqueville... he visited North American in 1831. Part of his trip was a planned return up the Mississippi in December. BUT the Mississippi had ice flows on it so far south into southern Mississippi that he had to travel overland.

Late 1890's the north end of Mobile Bay froze solid. (That would be the fresh water wedge above the saltier waters, but, still, it froze solid.)

We don't see those temperatures now, even at the extreme end of the temperature bell curves.

This also leads to an admiration for the Noisettes which were new introductions in that winter of 1831, which a lot of them survived. IMO our wimpy roses came about because green houses in the late 1800s became common and roses and other flowers grown there were wanted outside of greenhouses.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 8:45AM
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emilyw

I'm glad to know the problem may be something else (though it sounds like rose spring dwarf is also a serious problem?). I'm feeling very nervous for my rose babies right now. :P

    Bookmark   March 21, 2015 at 12:29PM
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Blueisland BC PNW-Z7-8(8a)

thank you stillann for your information and advice, I pruned back the rose quite far being careful to disinfect the pruners between cuts. I checked some of the other roses and there were a couple of suspicious canes here and there and I've pruned them back to and put it all on the burn pile. Guess I'll be watching for it now and being a lot more careful when handling the bushes and pruning to not spread anything.

Sure is nice to have this resource with so many experienced rose people willing to help!

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 7:44AM
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ickle_cat

Just a quick update, I'm moving my little rose bush to my friend's house today to live outside. Thanks for all of your advice and hopefully it'll grow ok in it's new location. I've been misting it every day, so hopefully that will have helped it along. At least my other plants are growing well!

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 3:16AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thanks for the update, always nice to hear what happens after the thread advice.

    Bookmark   March 22, 2015 at 6:55AM
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