22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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gr8heather(6b)

The mini could be rainbows end... I'll have to watch it and see how the colors develop. :) thanks

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 4:54PM
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roseseek(9)

Yes, you can cross large roses with minis. Kim

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:23PM
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Rosecandy VA, zone 7

Okay, so they aren't a problem for me then. Thanks everyone!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 6:29PM
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iris_gal(z9 CA)

I have wondered about these so did a little search. From Wikipedia:

In the adult form, it eats and damages leaves of many crops, including cucumbers, soybeans, cotton, beans, and many others. In the larval form, which is known as the southern corn rootworm, it tunnels through the roots of young plants, stunting or killing them. These native pests have a wide range of host plants, but will readily infest a field of crop plants, most notoriously corn.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:06PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Do you have some hot weather expected? A stretch of cool over cast weather is best for transplanting. Disturbing the rootball as little as possible, and possibly some temporary shade can help for a smoother transition.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 10:30PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Go ahead and move them. Dig and prep the new homes first, dig BIG root balls and try not to lose any soil or roots if possible when moving it, replant in new spots and WATER! And keep them watered but not soggy wet. They may wilt a tad at first but should soon perk back up. Don't fertilize them until you see new growth on them. They should be AOK!

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 4:49PM
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gardenbug(8b)

Okay, this is awesome. You folks are so helpful. Thank you. Since I'm fairly new to rose growing, I think I'll put a couple of stakes in where the branches have drooped to the ground. Tie them to the stakes and when the roses are faded, I'll cut the branch back. I'm just not sure where to make a cut or how far back? Thanks again for helping me.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 6:28PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Cut back to where it can stand up by itself. Maybe halfway.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:21AM
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what is this problem?Not sure what is causing this problem?
Posted by gardenlady48(z5 IL) June 12, 2014
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

The fungus is botrytis. This condition is also called "balling." In the garden, fungicides will have little or no effect. The problem will subside in warm or dry weather.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:07AM
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gardenlady48(z5 IL)

Thank u michaelg !

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 10:11AM
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pembroke(6--Louisville KY)

has been in pot about a month. Should I see roots coming out bottom of pot and then transplant to larger pot? Pembroke

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 5:45AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

The rose will have visible roots in its own time. A month is a very short time for a good root system. 6-8 weeks is more typical. but I've had some take much longer.

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 7:05AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Take into consideration that, if this is Dr. Huey (and I suspect Kippy's right) it will be an enormous once-blooming rambler with "iffy" disease-resistance.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 8:58PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Not sure what zone you are in, but if it was very cold, the tree rose might have been doomed so don't feel too bad. But Doc Huey can become a beast.

When I moved to my apartment (my garden is at moms) the previous manager had a rose she LOVED. I had to promise to care for it. It had a giant half rotten trellis. The seasons where Rust, Mildew, Sawflies (the little holes), and red blooms that lasted for what seemed like a few days. After a couple of years I had enough of that beast and cut it out. It had a root like my arm under the patio. I dug and dug and clawed and scratched and finally got the beast out.

I now know that her prized rose was Dr Huey..... There is more growing on the other side of the wall that I keep trying to explain to the gardener to remove it is a weed....but he leaves the palm trees too so what can I do

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 11:18PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I bought a band a few months ago and pretty much just put it right in the ground. it is near where the old chicken coop was years ago so guessing that soil has some extra oomph, but it is growing like a weed.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 11:07PM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

Westerland is still fighting to recover from a long cold winter here. Many of the canes which survived seem weakened. The new growth from the ground is quite vigorous however. One cane has already grown 4'.

My problem is worsened because the Venosa Violacea clematis which shares the arbor is now 8' and reaching the top with a thick mat of vines. I have to knit vines each morning in order to give Westerland enough sun to continue growing.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 1:22PM
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Ispahan Zone6a Chicago

My own root 'Westerland', growing in much more shade than it would like and in an intensively planted bed with a lot of competition, had a good amount of winter die back this year. It was left with only about 12 inches of green cane after spending the winter with no mulch or protection. It is now looking extremely healthy and is growing vigorously, currently about 4 feet by 4 feet and just about to open its first blooms. While not my favorite rose, I enjoy its searing orange color, sweet fragrance and health.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 10:54PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

As mentioned, Blushing Knock Out (and Pink Knock Out) is a mutation, or "sport", of the original Knock Out. Known to do this from time to time. I currently have one cane with blooms mixed light pink and cherry red, and this year, one cane that is solid cherry red. Fun to see!

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:58PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's charming and I hope it will happen again from time to time for you!

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 6:41PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I don't know if this will make you feel better or not, but Gypsy Carnival is a real disease-magnet and a very weak grower--in my garden at least. The blooms are gorgeous, but the plant always looks like it isn't going to survive to the next blooming cycle--although it has managed to survive for 5-6 years now.

As a whole, it is the weakest and most disease-ridden plant in my entire garden.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 8, 2014 at 1:00PM
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lelamsk(9a)

Thanks everyone for your feedback. I actually still have a replacement coming and since it is so hot not sure how a bare root will do at this time. I quess best thing to do is soak it overnight and keep it in the coolest place until it can develop some roots. Means there is something else that I will have to baby for a while. But I really did get some great feed back from everyone.. so thanks again.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:30PM
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reemcook(8a PNW)

Mr. Kim Rupert: Roses are evergreen with little to no blackspot issues (or other diseases). Prolific blooms throughout the season.

Kordes: Generally very healthy in the 8a (Pacific Northwest) climate.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 1:14AM
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nastarana(5a)

Francois Lacharme, for his magnificent Bourbon/Noisettes which, alas, I can't grow here.

I can now add Jacobus, now that 'Morning Stars', 'Autumn Bouquet' and 'Dream Girl' are growing back; I thought I had lost them.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:30PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Ken - Glad to know that your roses are doing good. Would love to see pictures when they bloom. I love it when my roses surprise me in a good way.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 2:11PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Great to hear sara Ann and ken! Things going good here!
We are actually still in our first flushes for the season...

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 5:15PM
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tigerloveroses

Hi all....I panicked and pulled out that rose,and a multiflora wild rose that was growing near by..the other roses seem to be ok thank god.one thing is for sure..no more knock outs for me! Never liked them much anyway.the virus is out there though.seen a few wild roses with them.on many landscaping projects in front of malls etc,there are rows and rows of knock outs half dead.ill upload more pics tomorow

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 1:03AM
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Seeingreen

Knockout's are not any more prone to catching RRD than other roses. There is just higher percentage of Knockouts planted because of their popularity. So it looks like more Knockouts come down with RRD than other roses.
If you go to Blog talk radio and enter rosechat they have episodes on the subject...plus it's a great show if you'r a rose lover :D

This post was edited by seeingreen on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 16:33

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 4:30PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

That's interesting Seil (though of course disappointing). I see that occur off and on in my roses in the ground as well, when the canes leaf out just fine then shrivel never more to be seen. I think the cane stores up just enough energy to put out some leaves but without the roots it can't sustain the growth.

I had a dramatic proof of that last year when I received a rose in a band pot that had literally no roots (the company of course replaced it). I went ahead and stuck it in a band pot to see what would happen and I was pleased to see it put out leaves, but after it shriveled and died, I pulled it out and there were still literally no roots. I guess that's why we in colder zones are most concerned about root/graft survival, since there's nothing to save the rose if that goes.

Sympathies on these two plants, vampygirl - if it's any consolation, Marilyn Monroe gave up the ghost on me in the ground in my zone 6 pocket without a fight, so I expect she's on the tender end of HTs. Chicago Peace has more fight in it if you want to replace it.

Cynthia

Cynthia

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 3:51PM
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Melissa Mc (6b)

I belong to our local rose society and in this month's newsletter one of them theorizes that the root dies first and then the rest of the plant slowly. I think that's what happened with mine as the plant was green and growing. ugh.

    Bookmark     June 12, 2014 at 1:42PM
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