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Westerland is still fighting to recover from a long cold winter here. Many of the canes which survived seem weakened. The new growth from the ground is quite vigorous however. One cane has already grown 4'.
My problem is worsened because the Venosa Violacea clematis which shares the arbor is now 8' and reaching the top with a thick mat of vines. I have to knit vines each morning in order to give Westerland enough sun to continue growing.
My own root 'Westerland', growing in much more shade than it would like and in an intensively planted bed with a lot of competition, had a good amount of winter die back this year. It was left with only about 12 inches of green cane after spending the winter with no mulch or protection. It is now looking extremely healthy and is growing vigorously, currently about 4 feet by 4 feet and just about to open its first blooms. While not my favorite rose, I enjoy its searing orange color, sweet fragrance and health.
As mentioned, Blushing Knock Out (and Pink Knock Out) is a mutation, or "sport", of the original Knock Out. Known to do this from time to time. I currently have one cane with blooms mixed light pink and cherry red, and this year, one cane that is solid cherry red. Fun to see!
I don't know if this will make you feel better or not, but Gypsy Carnival is a real disease-magnet and a very weak grower--in my garden at least. The blooms are gorgeous, but the plant always looks like it isn't going to survive to the next blooming cycle--although it has managed to survive for 5-6 years now.
As a whole, it is the weakest and most disease-ridden plant in my entire garden.
Kate
Thanks everyone for your feedback. I actually still have a replacement coming and since it is so hot not sure how a bare root will do at this time. I quess best thing to do is soak it overnight and keep it in the coolest place until it can develop some roots. Means there is something else that I will have to baby for a while. But I really did get some great feed back from everyone.. so thanks again.
Hi all....I panicked and pulled out that rose,and a multiflora wild rose that was growing near by..the other roses seem to be ok thank god.one thing is for sure..no more knock outs for me! Never liked them much anyway.the virus is out there though.seen a few wild roses with them.on many landscaping projects in front of malls etc,there are rows and rows of knock outs half dead.ill upload more pics tomorow
Knockout's are not any more prone to catching RRD than other roses. There is just higher percentage of Knockouts planted because of their popularity. So it looks like more Knockouts come down with RRD than other roses.
If you go to Blog talk radio and enter rosechat they have episodes on the subject...plus it's a great show if you'r a rose lover :D
This post was edited by seeingreen on Thu, Jun 12, 14 at 16:33
That's interesting Seil (though of course disappointing). I see that occur off and on in my roses in the ground as well, when the canes leaf out just fine then shrivel never more to be seen. I think the cane stores up just enough energy to put out some leaves but without the roots it can't sustain the growth.
I had a dramatic proof of that last year when I received a rose in a band pot that had literally no roots (the company of course replaced it). I went ahead and stuck it in a band pot to see what would happen and I was pleased to see it put out leaves, but after it shriveled and died, I pulled it out and there were still literally no roots. I guess that's why we in colder zones are most concerned about root/graft survival, since there's nothing to save the rose if that goes.
Sympathies on these two plants, vampygirl - if it's any consolation, Marilyn Monroe gave up the ghost on me in the ground in my zone 6 pocket without a fight, so I expect she's on the tender end of HTs. Chicago Peace has more fight in it if you want to replace it.
Cynthia
Cynthia
Reds- I would suggest you look at Don Juan. I just had to move a 5 year old one when we moved and it was a good 14 ft tall and covered with big red blooms. I have a small RU that I am currently loving.
Yellow-You are 6b so not sure a Tea would work for you, but Climbing Lady Hillingdon is a gorgeous yellow for me. Sky's the Limit is also supposed to be great and if you want to try an Austin I have seen some impressive Lady Hamilton roses grown as climbers.
It should be a very healthy, vigorous bush for you. Expect it to be about five feet tall by four feet wide. When it develops multiple canes, you won't need to tie it to anything. All you really need to do is feed it a good balanced rose food according to the instructions on the fertilizer package and water, water, water.
If you post a photo of the open bloom on the antique roses forum, someone will tell you the name of the bush.
Yellowish new foliage with green veins is iron deficiency. This is usually caused by high (alkaline) pH. Check the pH and get some sulfur at the garden store. This will very slowly acidify the soil. You could also apply an iron product such as iron sulfate granules. Don't overdo either of these treatments and be patient. I would not remove the young yellowish leaves. They can be greened up.
The plant can be made more bushy by pruning, but since it has had a hard time, I would leave it until early next spring, then cut back part way.
A Burbon that fits the bill is Louise Odier. Both of my plants are 4-year old, and each has a very small fall flush (the emphasis is on the word "small") that can last into November.
Archduke Charles is another that might work. It is a China and might be only borderline hardy here, but I did recall seeing a reasonably-sized plant at the P. Rockefeller Rose Garden in the Bronx. Haven't been there this year so I don't know if it has made through this past winter alive. . Another rose that may qualify is Baronne Prevost, a Hybrid Perpetual, which I think you can find both at the Rockefeller Garden an the Cranford Rose Garden. I don't grow either and cannot tell you how big a fall flush you can expect from each.
"So lovely, thanks for sharing. In my next life, I am going to live in California. (smile)"
Oh, donaroe. You cannot imagine how often I think of you all who must make such a valiant effort to have the roses we love. It staggers and shames my lazy bones. My respect and admiration swells whenever I read your posts about the work that goes into your roses. My friend in Ohio brings her geraniums inside each fall, and a few roses, as well. I am truly made humble.
All of you made my day with your kind replies.....even more so, 'cause
my garden is puny by comparison to many of yours.
Such a really nice group you all are on here!
Marti
P.s. One more for Leslie: Just Joey
Take into consideration that, if this is Dr. Huey (and I suspect Kippy's right) it will be an enormous once-blooming rambler with "iffy" disease-resistance.
Not sure what zone you are in, but if it was very cold, the tree rose might have been doomed so don't feel too bad. But Doc Huey can become a beast.
When I moved to my apartment (my garden is at moms) the previous manager had a rose she LOVED. I had to promise to care for it. It had a giant half rotten trellis. The seasons where Rust, Mildew, Sawflies (the little holes), and red blooms that lasted for what seemed like a few days. After a couple of years I had enough of that beast and cut it out. It had a root like my arm under the patio. I dug and dug and clawed and scratched and finally got the beast out.
I now know that her prized rose was Dr Huey..... There is more growing on the other side of the wall that I keep trying to explain to the gardener to remove it is a weed....but he leaves the palm trees too so what can I do