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I also have both, and I can't say that either of them have any fragrance to speak of to my nose. I'd give Fire 'n' Ice the edge for having a somewhat lighter reverse than Love, but it's much less hardy in my zone. I've had my original Love for 5-6 years, and replaced Fire 'n' Ice several times, only lasting a maximum of 2-3 years each. It might be one of those roses that isn't good on its own roots, since it's a dinky little plant - or maybe it's just a miniflora, as Seil says. I agree with her that neither is a frequent or prolific rebloomer.
Cynthia
I really like my Sonia and I got it own root from Roses Unlimited. It has grown well so far, as typical of their roses, and even snuck in a bloom on me before I could get it disbudded (I nip off buds in the first year to help build more structure to survive the winters). It has grown nicely bushy and we'll see if it's as tall as predicted, but I have been pleased with its vigor and general avoidance of most blackspot. It's in my "hot" bed of HT/floris, so as far as I'm concerned, the more color the better. So far it doesn't seem to fade like some of the apricot/orange roses can do, and given that it's near Tropicana, Fragrant Cloud, and Oranges and Lemons, it's welcome to put out blooms that are as garish as it pleases.
BTW, the way to interpret Roses Unlimited website is that they list all the roses for which they have mother plants and are propagating for sale. You're right that you can't tell from this listing which of the roses are currently available, though the vast majority of them are, but Pat responds quite promptly to emails asking about particular roses, and she's very generous with suggestions for roses that might suit you if you ask.
Below is the one bloom I let it get away with this year.
Cynthia
Our housing doesn't have a compost heap either, and I believe it is for aesthetic purposes. Yah whatever. We have a community plot but can't have a compost heap. They keep things neat and tidy here and that is a plus but there is a limit. And those black plastic things or whatever similar man made unit just don't work that great.
I had to trench compost my kitchen waste in my plot. Dig a trench, put in the smelly ripe kitchen waste and bury it. Tamp 'er down good. Now that the tomatoes have taken over I can't move in there anymore and so cannot dig anymore trenches :o)
I have a container on the counter just for coffee grounds and banana peels. The peels get cut width-wise into ribbons and mixed in with the coffee grounds. Shaken, not stirred. When the bucket is full the roses get a little snack.
My MW was dark colored from the beginning.
MW perks up as it gets more mature. I occasionally need to prop up a bloom if we have a hard rain, and its "neck" does seem to have a slight but graceful bend to it, but otherwise the flowers are reasonably pickable.
Munstead Wood--first blooms (last year).
Kate
Hi bonsaimaster. I love your passion. Never give up in your quest to find a rose you really want. Our whole Save the Roses! Auction is geared toward preserving the genetics of roses that might otherwise be lost forever. This year we will be offering Ralph Moore's last floribunda, which is in the process of being registered as The Final Bow.
Anyway, I have Osiria in my yard and have to agree that it is a most difficult rose to grow. However, I will try a rooter pot and see if I can get one going for you. Keep your fingers crossed.
Here is a link that might be useful: 2014 CCRS Auction
so, another newbie question...
I am planting the climbing roses on either side of an arbor which is flanked on both sizes by a picket fence. I would like to train half the canes up the arbor and the other half along the fence. Is that a reasonable expectation?
And how far away from the corner of the fence/Arbor should the climbers be planted?
I am going to try to post a photo...
LINK WARZ!
See the following from Dr. Linda Chalker-Scott, a horticultural scientist who knows the research on mulches and has contributed some herself. Wood chips are excellent if you don't have leaves or pine needles on your property. Call a tree guy and ask him to dump a load when he is in the neighborhood. Should be free or maybe ten bucks. Great for the garden, no shipping / energy costs, and it keeps stuff out of the local landfill. Or use whatever else is cheap and local.
Here is a link that might be useful: wood chips
What was with that flood of posts by the earlier poster? Is he just carrying on a long monologue with himself? Or does he really think he is interacting with other real life posters?
Weird. Reminds me of an earlier poster who used to post message after message after message--in a row. Oblivious to the fact that no one was responding to any of them. Hmmmm.
Kate
But remember -- again -- that "Disease Resistant" is relative.
Those knockout roses are considered "disease resistant," because they appear to be resistant to most types of blackspot.
In my part of Southern California, where blackspot is a very rare visitor -- they mildew.
So one area's disease-resistant rose is another area's fungus-ridden disaster.
Jeri
"Roses", Jack Harkness. Scientist, poet, romantic who "spoke roses". The book gives personal experience with many dozens of varieties and explains why they were milestones in their days.
"Rose Growing Complete", Edward LeGrice, the paperback edition, not the earlier hardback as the later paperback contains so much more information. Includes "150 years of British Seedling Roses" and the history of the Royal National Rose Society.
Both of these authors were fine gentlemen who were highly respected as people, business people, breeders and rose producers. It shows in their writing. Two men whom I would have loved to have met in person. And two breeders whose roses taught me much and brought me much pleasure.
"Roses: From Dreams to Reality", Herb Swim. A very interesting look into the mind of one of America's most successful rose breeders.
"Papa Floribunda: The Gene Boerner Story". Interesting look into the man who created the "modern floribunda", which contains historic information about a number of roses; J&P and personalities surrounding them.
"A Rose Odyssey", Dr. J.H. Nicholas. A "round the world" rose adventure in 1937, just prior to the outbreak of WWII, written by one of the more knowledgeable, experienced and observant rose men of the Century.
"Hennessey on Roses", Roy Hennessey. The author had OPINIONS! He was engaged in open warfare with the ARS. He authored a rose column in the local paper which also ran the ARS rebuttal to each edition. He was a conspiracy theorist on MANY subjects. Ralph Moore's first experience with him was as he was "profanely" throwing Robert Pyle (Conard-Pyle; Star Roses) off his property. Mr. Moore said, "Letters from Roy arrived SMOKING", though he reported Hennessey always treated him well. Much of his "rose theology" may have been appropriate for his time and location, but not for many of ours. But, who could resist a book whose dedication reads (click on the image to enlarge).. to which I would respectfully add, Mrs. Hennessey was a long-suffering saint! Kim
Ooh that is a beauty!