22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

I was just telling my hubby my roses have never looked so good this time of year. Granted they don't look as good as they did in the spring but usually half mine by now are completely defoliated. Boooooo! I've fertilized more and kept them watered better this yr so maybe that's helped. I agree with boncrow and could never imagine your roses looking tacky!! They always look so beautiful and healthy!! I've already received 2 small orders and really don't need more. Lol. Noooooo room!! Judy

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sara_ann-z6bok

Seil - I always enjoy your sense of humor. Boncrow and Judy, yes my roses do look tacky sometimes! I do appreciate the kind words. Kentucky_rose sounds like you've had some great weather for roses! Our weather is just now beginning to be more fall like. I do hope I'll have some pretty fall blooms. A few of my roses are setting on buds. If I have the blooms I'll definitely take pictures!

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Yes a review of the book would be great sandandsun!

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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Sandandsun, I would really appreciate you reviewing the book for us as well. If its worth it, I would buy it. Here in S.C. many "disease resistent" roses still get blackspot for me. If I were to start all over again, I would have planted less Austins, too late now. After all the work digging my heavy clay soil and amending planting roses is an all day affair and after all that work I'm not shovel pruning them! I would like to know how he researched by region though, as I'd be more inclined to buy a book from a southern author than one from New York.

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carlota(So. Calif. z.9)

Hello Roseseek,
I adore their botanical gardens! It was a favorite haunt of mine. We did move, we are now living in Reche Canyon between Moreno Valley and Colton. Its wonderful here, the neighborhood is amazing and a true community.
I know Rosa Californica grows wild on Mt. Baldy, but always felt weird sneaking a cutting from there.
We have grey water drip irrigation set up, and I could easily divert some water for R. Californica (hopefully a few more)
Thank you for the great suggestions,
Carlota

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Tessiess, SoCal Inland, 9b, 1272' elev

I live very close to RSABG and visit the garden frequently. Some of my favorite plants are their CA native roses--of which they grow many (including various selections of R. californica from around the state). I have several different R. californicas that I bought at RSABG--the best being R. californica 'First Dawn' an introduction of Suncrest Nurseries from wild-collected seed. It blooms more profusely than all the others, is extremely fragrant, and sets hundreds of hips (that are the best tasting of all rose hips I've tried). Flowers are pale pink and cupped. It prefers a location with some afternoon shade/dappled sun. When established, it can do well on below average water in such a spot.

Grow Native Nursery Claremont is closed until the Fall Planting Festival on October 4 (the Westwood location is open year round). They usually have R. californica at the annual plant sale, the most recent ones have sold First Dawn.

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: RSABG Fall Planting Festival

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seil zone 6b MI

The only one I have is Summer Fashion and while the blooms are lovely they are scarce and the plant is exceedingly slow growing, disease riddled and wimpy. I hunted and searched three years for this rose based on the gorgeous photos I found on the web but in real life, in my garden, it's a major disappointment.

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Cynthia
Oh! Too bad about Quo Vadis! Hopefully it will do better for you next year. I hope it's a great rose. :)
I'm excited about Yves Piaget!! Can't wait for that fragrance!!

At least I'll have good luck overwintering Lucille Ball since it goes in the garage overwinter. I'll post some pictures next summer so you can see it. Then maybe/maybe not you may want to try it again.

I love the look of your Broceliande EXCEPT I didn't realize that it doesn't have the height I want on the flowers. I don't particularly like when flowers have no shoulders and just sit among the leaves. I get kind of claustrophobic when I sniff the flowers. Hmmmm.....I have to think on this a bit.
Thanks for your help! :)

Oh Seil! What a disappointment to be so focused on a rose, and then meh? I wonder if I shouldn't order that one. Although - how long have you had it? Maybe it'll get better?

Carol

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azjenny

Oh!! Sorry! I will edit right now. The wall will be east facing!!
Morning sun, afternoon shade. Sorry, just a typo but a very troubling one!
Thank you for all your advice :)

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jaspermplants

SDLM is a must , so that one would be my first pick. Clothide Soupert is also a good rose, so that one I would recommend. My mother 's garden in Tempe has Gruss an Aachen and it is good here.

What about some tea roses (not hybrid teas) such as Maman Cochet, Mrs BR Can't, etc. They do very well in our hot, dry climate.

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HollyKline

I'm just strategizing so I don't lose half of them, like I did last winter!

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susan4952(5)

Lady year was grizzly for Chicago, too. Lost some monsters. Maybe I will drag out the dreaded C word this year......cones

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

GORGEOUS!!!!!
Carol

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susan4952(5)

Beautiful. Love the name, too.

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farmerduck

My MIL collects condensed water from our air con systems, and, when the systems are in full use, she can get up to 50 gallon a day. Not sure whether the water come from the humidifiers or not, but if you have such condensed water, it can add up over time. She just put a bucket under the pipes, and, when full, pour the water into a bigger bucket.

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carlota(So. Calif. z.9)

I collect from our small air conditioner but will start collecting from our large one.

These suggestions are great, keep the coming!

Carlota

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jacqueline9CA

Thanks, Henry.

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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Good luck.

As long as he addresses the five different black spot races that are active in different parts of the US, siting of the roses and soil fertility and, of course, climate he may have something new to add to the discussion.

Smiles,
Lyn

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

The local nursery- La Sumida Santa Barbara CA, has a variety of boxed 60" tree roses. You could call and see what they have and how much $$$

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jerijen(Zone 10)

You could talk to Otto & Sons roses (who supply many nurseries and landscapers in SoCal).

I know they have carried them in the past.

Jeri

Here is a link that might be useful: Otto & Sons Nursery, Fillmore, CA

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susan4952(5)

GC..one of the best in zone 5.

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AnneCecilia z5 MI(5a)

OMG, Susan- that is a beautiful photo. I'll gladly wait a few years if my GC would look like that.
So I didn't have a chance to take any photos over the weekend, but as I was cleaning up after lunch today, I looked out my kitchen window and thought what a pretty view it was - and very representative of my mix of shrubs, roses, daylilies and other perrenials. It was taken through the screen, so please forgive the bit of fuzzyness.

And straight on as the fairy is looking, the tall canes are Evelyn. Never thought to see her so tall! If she manages to open any blooms at the ends of those canes before frost, I won't have to bend over to take a sniff of her delightful perfume, will I? ;-)

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esther_b

I would say that this rose bush is about 4 feet tall. There is a basic base of thick brown old canes, from which radiate several new canes. Most of the new canes are thin and weak. Under the burden of several blossoms, they leaned low toward the ground. Those are not canes that should remain, in my opinion. There are about 2 decently strong canes that grew from the old brown base canes.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

If your afraid of winter winds causing damage then cut a bit off.

But I'd wait until Spring to do any major pruning....

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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

This will be my first time at overwintering roots rose canes. My plan is to put the small pots they're in into a much larger pot so that most of the cane is covered by soil. Then I'm going to cover with blankets. I'm also going to water once/month after December. Make sure you water them really, really well before they go into the garage.
Carol

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Ok thanks mad_gallica, Seil, & Carol for the info!

I'll let you know if they make it through the winter.

I have a Mister Lincoln in a container I have to try and overwinter... We have no garage so not sure of my plan of attack yet...

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henry_kuska

Someone asked why don't you use Sevin?

Maybe the answer can be found in this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbaryl

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sorry Ingrid! Me is bad...

I remember seeing lots of Jb's years ago but have only seen a handful in the past 10+ years...

So this thread is interesting in case I need to use some of these ideas in the future...

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