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Thanks, Kippy!
Welltraveled, they were dead as door nails. I have already removed all the potted ones and none of them had any white feeder roots left on them. Some of them pulled right out like there were no roots left at all.
The ones in the ground are still there because I'm not going to play Russian Roulette with them until after my show. I had to cut most everything to the ground (the exception was Reine des Violettes) and all of the others are growing very well and even setting buds now. So I'm sure those are dead too. After my show I'll dig them up and move some around and replant.
Patience rewarded in a different thread.
Hint: If it's good in 5, then it should be guaranteed in 6.
Red and Pink from the_morden_man -
Here is a link that might be useful: Climbing rose for arbor in Zone 5???
This post was edited by sandandsun on Thu, Jun 5, 14 at 18:22
I have three grafted climbing Eden just planted this year and they are the best perform rose in my humid garden. The flowers are beautiful and stay on for a long time. If I have a big garden I would love to plan more Eden rose.
On the other hand, I have two climbing America at their second year and they don't perform very well. It is possible that the Eden bare root roses I bought from Regans have a good start with the thick best looking canes and were planted in an area with more sun. Here are the pictures of my Eden roses.
I grow both, and from the angle it is hard to tell, but I'd vote WBY over OTB. Wild Blue Yonder has larger, more ruffled blooms with a lighter mauve center on a tall, vase shaped bush. OTB blooms start out bright purple with the yellow base and fade to a soft mauve with white base. OTB is a large shrub form, and mine is nearly thornless.
Here are bush shots of both of mine:
Wild Blue Yonder
Outta the Blue
Look for an ice melter with only calcium chloride. Sodium salts are harmful to plants, more so in gardens with heavy soils and low rainfall. Chlorides are not helpful, but all brands I have seen have chloride. There is no sign of salt poisoning in the images, however.
I am still confused by the reddish veins, but yellowing of the new growth without distortion of growth patterns is usually iron deficiency. It can be caused by pH over 7 or cold, wet soil. Excessive phosphate fertilizer can contribute.
It is not unusual for some plants to be chlorotic and others not. Multiflora rootstock and own-roots of some varieties have more trouble garnering iron than Dr. Huey rootstock. There can be local variation in pH.
One of the definitions of a rambler is no or little rebloom. It's a loose term for a lot of different roses. I'm told to call New Dawn a large flowered climber and things like Super Dorothy a climbing polyantha. So your Blushing Lucy survived the winter well? It would seem then that you aren't too badly limited as to what climbers you can grow. There are some ramblers bred for cold climes. Polar Star is one. I think the Geschwend roses were intended for cold.
Polar Star and Geschwend are very pretty, thanks for mentioning them. Yes, Blushing Lucy is doing very well here, I have two of them, the one wrapping around the porch(facing North) has very little (almost none) winter damage, the other one 30' away got eaten by rabbits , I moved the root to a sunny spot facing west two months ago, will see how well it blooms next Spring (blooms on old wood). I ordered Bloosomtime and Awaking to grow with my three New Dawns , to keep the colors going; and Renae will be growing with a Blushing Lucy. I want to have blooms around the porch all the time. but I love Blushing Lucy too (even she is a once bloomer for my location), so I am going to twist them together! No big deal! :-)
I just purchased a Cl America to twist with Cecile Brunner Cl- another once bloomer for me. Cecile Brunner Cl doesn't grow tall in this iceland.
You're right, New Dawns is a big climber, not a rambler, I tried to keep the title short, so upgraded it to a rambler for a short time :-)
Wowza!!!
The bloom is gorgeous and looks HUGE!!! And to top it off - it's fragrant. My, my, my.....
Carol
Thank you everyone. Dove_song, right now it has a strong tea fragrance, but at times I think it is more of a perfume fragrance, like the name says.