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I have three grafted climbing Eden just planted this year and they are the best perform rose in my humid garden. The flowers are beautiful and stay on for a long time. If I have a big garden I would love to plan more Eden rose.
On the other hand, I have two climbing America at their second year and they don't perform very well. It is possible that the Eden bare root roses I bought from Regans have a good start with the thick best looking canes and were planted in an area with more sun. Here are the pictures of my Eden roses.
I grow both, and from the angle it is hard to tell, but I'd vote WBY over OTB. Wild Blue Yonder has larger, more ruffled blooms with a lighter mauve center on a tall, vase shaped bush. OTB blooms start out bright purple with the yellow base and fade to a soft mauve with white base. OTB is a large shrub form, and mine is nearly thornless.
Here are bush shots of both of mine:
Wild Blue Yonder
Outta the Blue
Look for an ice melter with only calcium chloride. Sodium salts are harmful to plants, more so in gardens with heavy soils and low rainfall. Chlorides are not helpful, but all brands I have seen have chloride. There is no sign of salt poisoning in the images, however.
I am still confused by the reddish veins, but yellowing of the new growth without distortion of growth patterns is usually iron deficiency. It can be caused by pH over 7 or cold, wet soil. Excessive phosphate fertilizer can contribute.
It is not unusual for some plants to be chlorotic and others not. Multiflora rootstock and own-roots of some varieties have more trouble garnering iron than Dr. Huey rootstock. There can be local variation in pH.
One of the definitions of a rambler is no or little rebloom. It's a loose term for a lot of different roses. I'm told to call New Dawn a large flowered climber and things like Super Dorothy a climbing polyantha. So your Blushing Lucy survived the winter well? It would seem then that you aren't too badly limited as to what climbers you can grow. There are some ramblers bred for cold climes. Polar Star is one. I think the Geschwend roses were intended for cold.
Polar Star and Geschwend are very pretty, thanks for mentioning them. Yes, Blushing Lucy is doing very well here, I have two of them, the one wrapping around the porch(facing North) has very little (almost none) winter damage, the other one 30' away got eaten by rabbits , I moved the root to a sunny spot facing west two months ago, will see how well it blooms next Spring (blooms on old wood). I ordered Bloosomtime and Awaking to grow with my three New Dawns , to keep the colors going; and Renae will be growing with a Blushing Lucy. I want to have blooms around the porch all the time. but I love Blushing Lucy too (even she is a once bloomer for my location), so I am going to twist them together! No big deal! :-)
I just purchased a Cl America to twist with Cecile Brunner Cl- another once bloomer for me. Cecile Brunner Cl doesn't grow tall in this iceland.
You're right, New Dawns is a big climber, not a rambler, I tried to keep the title short, so upgraded it to a rambler for a short time :-)
I got the horse manure last spring 2013 from a coworkers farm and she said it had been piled up and left all winter long before I got a hold of it. I used it in my compost bin to compost even more over last summer and just laid the compost on top of the soil as a top dressing.
I will try to get a close up of a leaf if I can, it's raining right now.
That's sounds fine, Nick. You just want to be careful with the fertilizer when you first plant roses so you don't burn the roots. Besides, when you first plant them it takes them a bit to settle in and start to take up nutrients anyway. Seeing new growth start on top will tell you that roots are ready to feed more top growth so you can go ahead and start to fertilize.
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Well hopefully I did not burn the roots cuz like I said, after we dug the hole, I added a tablespoon of the Roses Miracle Grow to the hole. Then I watered the hole so the rose miracle grow would get wet & disperse into the soil. Then added the bush & covered & watered again.
I agree, your roses will sort themselves out and the blooms will ultimately face toward sunlight rather than toward the wall. I have an amusing example of such a thing. Years ago when my husband and I first bought our house, he planted a huge row of giant sunflowers against our fence. We were so excited for them to bloom. Well, they bloomed alright...but they all faced toward our neighbor's yard and away from ours. That was the direction of the sun. Lesson learned! lol
PS: our neighbors loved them.
Patience rewarded in a different thread.
Hint: If it's good in 5, then it should be guaranteed in 6.
Red and Pink from the_morden_man -
Here is a link that might be useful: Climbing rose for arbor in Zone 5???
This post was edited by sandandsun on Thu, Jun 5, 14 at 18:22
I'll also recommend Ramblin' Red, had it for 7+ years, cane hardy on the trellis for me in z4 & very disease resistant. Also one of the few roses in my garden that the Japanese beetles leave alone.