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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I think that not having a mono culture of just one plant has helped draw in the birds.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 8:12PM
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cecily(7 VA)

Hello JrTack, welcome to the rose forum. I think your foliage looks terrific. The slug damage is minimal and I wouldn't spray at this point -- rose slugs appear in early spring and vanish when the weather heats up. Sort of like aphids -- a large number appear when the bushes first leaf out and then only minimal numbers for the rest of the growing season. Your roses are in good shape, enjoy the flowers.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2014 at 7:32AM
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dukegg1(z6/7NJ)

Update: Here's my first rose (about May 15th). I've had about 8 blooms by now. So...I guess the early planting didnt hurt. PS, leaves look better now, too; I took care of whatever was munching on them.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 8:43PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Likely a rose slug, small green worms that eat the leaves from the underside. I had them for the first time this year. New growth looks great!

This post was edited by mzstitch on Tue, Jun 3, 14 at 6:49

    Bookmark     June 3, 2014 at 6:47AM
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clax66

We had a brutal winter and an ice storm that caused major damage on the tree canopy in my city. I lost a few perennials but my David Austin roses survived...well, I'm not sure about one, there has been a little growth at the base but it hasn't been able to catch up to her sisters. I haven't had the heart to give up on her yet:(

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 10:50PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

I lost all my rose trees in pots, 36 of them! They were in a shed during the winter, and I lost about 25 roses in the garden, plus it was the worst winter for rabbit damage.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 11:56PM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

That's wonderful, Sara-Ann, and I'm happy for you, knowing only too well what an incredible blessing that is. We've had no rain in what seems like forever, and will not have any until October or November at the earliest, with ever-present fire danger. Still, it's good to know that for someone there is the wonderful relief of a wet sky, and what it does to make the garden come alive again.

Ingrid

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 4:27PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you everyone. I am hoping all who need rain will get it and this drought will end. This is serious for a lot of people. My main concern for here is our water situation. Our city is working on this issue and they are making some progress. I lost a majority of my roses several years ago, due to drought and I don't want that to happen again. Weather can sure wreak havoc, can't it?. The horrible winter that some had, the drought, the heat, there's always something! I am generally an upbeat person and try to have a positive outlook and I am very happy for this small reprieve and hope this situation is going to get better for everyone..

This post was edited by Sara-Ann on Mon, Jun 2, 14 at 23:22

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 8:41PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I seriously doubt that anyone growing Lavender Lassie would agree with Pickering that it "blooms continuously," however generously that is construed.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 4:37PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

The Lavender Lassies in the pic I included are about 11 years old and originally grafted on Multiflora from PIckering. They receive about 8 hours of direct sun a day. They bloom twice a year with deadheading. Has been that way since year 1 and only the volume of blooms changed with age. It is by no stretch a continuous bloomer. They also blackspot mildly every summer in the bottom 15-20% of leaves, then drop the leaves cleanly and regrow new ones. The same experience with an LL I planted in the east coast of Canada in every regard.

I still think the rose in your pic is a bourbon, but whatever it is, as long as you're happy with it, that is all that truly matters.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 8:23PM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Would you consider plants for the narrow area? It's the perfect space for some catmint or some sort of plant that plays off the beautiful colors of roses. Maybe something white ..
Then you wouldn't have to worry about running a lawn mower in that narrow area.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 8:24AM
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serge94501

Thanks...I did consider flowers but then again I will need from time to time to park on that strip and grass has a better recovery potential I think.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 6:45PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

just googled it too. I really think it is the crazy weather, and that seems to make the most sense. I will still do the white paper thing. I do not and I mean 'do not' spray insecticides of any kind. I see many birds of all types, and a few bees coming back lately. I do a happy dance about these

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 11:39PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sadly we once had lots of birds but hawks have been keeping them away parts of the summer these past 2 years...
We have been getting a decent amount of bees... Honey and bumbles...

I hope you figure out your petal problem charleney...

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 6:16PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Listen to buford. When I moved up here in 08 from S.E FL., the biggest change for me was the soil. Once you get that figured out, roses up in this part of the state grow large with larger blooms in the spring and fall. You also have to watch out for ice storms during the winter. Snow is good. Ice is not. Over all, I enjoy growing roses up here compared to FL.

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 11:19PM
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teka2rjleffel(z10FL)

I expected a soil change. I can't resist digging in the dirt even on vacation. So I did a little on vacation in the GA mnts. I didn't know if the entire state was clay though. How about bug and disease issues?

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 4:59PM
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henry_kuska

michaelg is correct for normal herbicide spray damage; but if the herbicide is picked up by a root, the damage could be more local. (This is not written for your case, but for other readers who may have a problem in the future.)

This post was edited by henry_kuska on Mon, Jun 2, 14 at 14:18

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 2:17PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If you or a neighbor (which is what happened to me) sprayed any kind of herbicide OR used a weed and feed on the lawn it's probably that. Don't be fooled into thinking that if you didn't spray it it can't be that. Herbicide sprays can travel a long way on any kind of breeze. Unfortunately most people are not any where near as careful with the stuff as they should be.

My neighbor was spraying for poison ivy in his yard and hedge but he never bothered to check on wind conditions before hand, he just sprayed when and where ever he saw it. He never told me until after I found the damage on my roses. Like you I freaked out and thought it was RRD. Until I spotted him out there spraying on a blustery day! After talking to him I realized what had happened. His hedge is a good 30 or 40 feet from my rose bed but the prevailing winds come from that direction and it was blown all the way into my bed. I lost a few other perennials because of it too. Now he knows to let me know when he's going to spray so I can protect my roses.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 3:34PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

I am soooo sorry that all of you have had the same awful experience. Hoping it will stop more f you from doing this. It was a terrible! I did use the cardboard and newspaper around new beds, and I liked it a lot. I think that is why my mulch is so fantastic. Love to you all, you need it.

Char.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 7:46PM
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harryshoe zone6 eastern Pennsylvania

I doubt there are many of us who haven't had the nightmare of weed barrier cloth. It gets you over and over:

1. its expensive
2. its a pain to install
3. it makes it difficult to plant
4. mulch will readily slide away
5. there are just as many weeds as before
6. the fine roots of the weeds grow right through the cloth, latch on and become impossible to pull out
7. removing the cloth requires first removing all of the mulch and a whole lotta time and mess
8. every time you remember steps 1 through 7 you feel so dumb because, as a gardener, you already knew that weed seeds come from above. Not below.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 1:13PM
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Lilyfinch z7 mid tn

Oh Lesley that is beyond magical !! I need to save your pictures as inspiration for my lake view garden. Do you have a thread going with some ? If not , can you ? Yours is one of my favorites !!

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 8:15PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Dani, any fertilizer will burn plants if used to excess, and no fertilizer will burn plants if used in appropriate amounts.

Generally, don't mix fertilizer into the soil unless a soil test has shown a deficiency such as phosphorus or calcium. Fertilize at the surface and don't exceed labeled doses. That includes not applying more than one fertilizer in the same time interval--they all provide roughly the same stuff. Usually labeled doses are on the heavy side and you can use less than that. If you fertilize at planting time, use a light dose.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 11:40AM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

Yellow- Golden Fairy Tale (Sterntaler)

Lavender- Poseidon

Red- Grand Amore, Black Forest Rose

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 10:23PM
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sandandsun(9a FL)

My two cents:

If the_morden_man affirms it, then so far - to date, I am convinced of the truth of it.

Or to say it another way, I believe that a recommendation from the_morden_man for cold zones is a recommendation that is very difficult to top.

Of course, this is ONLY true if one wants roses that work hard. There are countless roses that will do if one wants roses that require hard work.

And lastly, as I ALWAYS say, one must be willing to wait three years before judging.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 11:21AM
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jacqueline9CA

What is going on is that you just planted it 6 weeks ago, and the poor thing is trying to grow roots while simultaneously supporting all of that top growth. However, it looks mainly fine. If it was mine I would cut off ONLY the canes or parts of canes that are brown and obviously completely dead. Then I would leave it alone for at least one year, so that it can grow roots and get established.

Next Spring, when it stops freezing, you can prune it a bit.

Jackie

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 9:42AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Will do, SandandSun - I'll post some pictures of the "back 40" as soon as they are up to snuff. The roses are just now starting their June bloom, but I'll post some pictures after they get going. If you want to see the back 40 in spring (the tulips were particularly nice this year) I have a thread on Roses that contrasts my spring 2014 and summer 2013 gardens. It has surely cycled off the first pages by now, but it's still around somewhere. Thanks for the encouragement - like we need any encouragement as rose nuts!

Cynthia

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 6:12PM
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Sow_what? Southern California Inland

I'm also very happy with my Heirloom bands. When I got the delivery notice, I zipped by to unpack the roses, but forgot to bring a knife to open the box. The new perforated 4-pack package was so convenient to open by hand; and the roses were easy to unpack without damage. The bands arrived nice and bushy -- they looked like small shrubs. Three went into the ground, one was planted in a pot, and all are doing really well. I'm very pleased with this company.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2014 at 5:29AM
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justkristyj

Thanks boncrow66, I really like this rose too. Love those bargains.

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 9:34PM
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boncrow66

I would have gone this weekend if it wasn't a 3 hour drive but I did happen on a small local nursery close to me that has roses the owner purchases from Chamblees in the spring so I did get some Chamblees roses this weekend, just not bargain ones. :)

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 9:48PM
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