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dublinbay z6 (KS)

My experience is that the color of Munstead Wood is deeper and darker.

The main difference I'm seeing so far is that MW has a very different bush shape--it is much shorter than WS2000 and never has that awkward sideways spread that WS2000 specializes in. In fact, MW tends to form a most shapely and graceful bush so far--but mine is still relatively new, so we'll see in another year or two.

I do like both--and I grow both. Given their differences in size and shape, they serve somewhat different functions in a garden.

I think, if I had to make a choice, I like the MW bloom best, but that is not meant as a put-down of WS2000's beautiful quartered blooms. Both are beautiful.

Kate

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 10:15AM
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KarenPA_6b

Thank you, Kate for the detailed description of both plants. It really helps me a lot in my selection. If space and time is not limited, I would go for both. But Mustead Wood definitely fits my need. Thanks again.

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 3:00PM
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zaphod42

I'm excited to hear Capitaine John Ingram on the list. I just planted one last year and can't wait to see it bloom this year.

Comice de Tarn-et-Garonne

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 9:42AM
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msjam2

My favorite, Mary Magdalane

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 11:17AM
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lucillle

Lesley, your reach should always exceed your grasp. I will totally cheer you on if you are in the Derby starting lineup someday:)

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 2:56PM
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redwolfdoc_z5(5)

Lucille, I think I might love you!

Harryshoe, that is a stunning picture!

Hooray for all of you enablers... you enrich my life!

Happy Valentine's Day!

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 9:33AM
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ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9

Andrea if the roses were bands or in small pots there might be a problem, but if they're already in 5-gallon pots I think they'll be sturdy enough to be acclimated to the heat if you plant them in April. When they're in the ground you can do a better job of watering and mulching to get them through the summer, whereas in the pots they'll be much more vulnerable to the heat.

Ingrid

    Bookmark   February 13, 2014 at 6:36PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

Well, it seems I'm out-numbered! but I had a terrible disappointment planting out potted roses in my climate in spring. Maybe i didn't coddle them enough or something but last spring, since it wasn't too hot and dry, I tried planting out 12 potted plants from Barni:6 roses, 3 wisteria ,3 clematis.Only one of the wisteria survived, and 2 of the 3 clematis.Only 3 of the roses did decently; of the others, one died, one seems to be alive, though it's reduced to one short cane ,one I moved back into a pot and I don't know if it'll survive...so I would avoid trying to plant potted stuff out in the future in spring!

    Bookmark   February 14, 2014 at 5:41AM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

This was my original post from this summer that was brought up to the top again. When it came time to place my order, I changed my mind and went with Bolero to play it a bit safer. Now you are making me regret my decision!!!

    Bookmark   March 18, 2013 at 10:20PM
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Molineux(6b)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fragrance. FAIR BIANCA's blooms possess a very strong and unique fragrance. David Austin describes it as myrrh, but to me it smells oddly like Noxzema face cream with a subtle vanilla note. I know it sounds odd but the unusual perfume fits the pristine whiteness of the blooms perfectly.

You know folks the more years I spend with this rose the more I'm coming to realize just how much I like it. Yes she lacks the presence of the larger cultivars but there is place in the garden for petite roses too. The medium sized flowers are large in proportion to small upright plant, which in their own way draw the eye down to the plant.

Provided you can get her grafted and are willing to spray and fertilize then Fair Bianca performs admirably.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 12:21PM
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henry_kuska

See:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20607379

Here is a link that might be useful: roses in Chile

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 11:15AM
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gardentiller

Thank you HK, The local florist told me that some varieties (Freedom) grown from Prima Rose, Ecuador, is much larger and better quality than that of other grower's.
I know there are many cut flower rose grower in Ecuador, some of them are European origin. Is possible some grower adapting better way to propagated their plants.
If time allowed, I am going to do the index testing on RMV of some SA imported cut rose flower this year. I have tiny VI Mme Butterfly, I am waiting it grow large enough to do the test.
Gardentiler

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 11:49AM
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kingcobbtx9b

Oh yeah forgot to mention I used my 15% to get my first pair of Felcos!

    Bookmark   February 11, 2014 at 5:16PM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

I go to my area farm feed store and use their 10-10-10+. It has all the extra goody stuff. I also use fish emulsion twice in the spring and twice in the fall. All my roses seem to like it quite well. I exhibit and the judges like my roses as well.

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 11:40AM
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andreark

Kate,
I wasn't arguing, I was just telling you exactly where I saw this info. I looked more closely at the site and you are absolutely correct. Thanks.

ratdogheads,
Thanks for the info on Rogue Valley. Looks like I can find something I like there.

Lynnette,
That is a beautiful plant, I will look for it at Rogue Valley.

Thanks and Happy New Year to you all,

andrea

    Bookmark   January 1, 2014 at 3:21PM
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msjam2

Lynnette,

Where did you get Flower Power from? I checked RVR and didn't have it on their website, maybe I missed it?

    Bookmark   February 12, 2014 at 9:51AM
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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

If all goes well...

Sammy turns 23 this year, and he doesn't by any means seem "old" yet.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   February 11, 2014 at 2:17PM
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Maude80

I hope you have many happy years with him. You seem like a great bird daddy:)

    Bookmark   February 11, 2014 at 2:23PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Alfalfa would be about the only thing I would add--oh yes, sometimes some manure also.

Since I started using Rose Tone (or Plant Tone) in the spring and it already contains some alfalfa, I don't bother to add alfalfa anymore, but if I switched over completely to the convenience of continuous-feed Osmocote (3 or 4 months, depending on the type you buy), I might go back to the practice of adding a handful of alfalfa to each rose.

Whether or not manure gets added depends entirely on whim--and how overworked I do or do not feel--and how dang hot it is outside. I wish I were more regular, however, in adding manure.

Kate

    Bookmark   February 11, 2014 at 9:57AM
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Maude80

I use miracle gro and that gross fish emulsion fertilizer (more frequently than the miracle gro)....

    Bookmark   February 11, 2014 at 10:28AM
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henryinct

The answers are no and yes. New basal growth of the grafted rose will only come from the bud union (graft) area where the canes join the rootstock cane. This area will enlarge into a ball and buds that become canes will spring from it as well as from the established grafted canes. Any other canes that may spring from the rootstock cane will be from the rootstock and not the graft and you get rid of them by ripping them off at the base. The two canes that are there will get bigger as will the rootstock cane. As the root system gets better established and assuming you take good care of the rose the canes will get bigger.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 1:50PM
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seil zone 6b MI

What Henry said but that is a pretty typical looking bagged bare root rose so I wouldn't worry. Plant it and take good care of it and it will probably do just fine for you. I wouldn't prune anything off of it except dead wood for the first year. Just let it put on some roots and top growth.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 7:58PM
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msjam2

I pruned about 15 roses this weekend without a single scratch on me, why oh why did I wait so long to get a pair of these?!!
The gloves are so soft, not stiff like the ones I get from costco.

    Bookmark   February 9, 2014 at 8:33PM
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susan4952(5)

Ms jam, glad they worked so well for you. I am like Seil, afraid I will lop off a finger. Always start out with gloves......never make it very far.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 3:55PM
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connietx(7)

The bird tower was my idea, but the actual hard work was done by sons and daughter.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 11:49AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

That looks great!

You raised sons & daughter right, too. :^)

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 1:39PM
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susan4952(5)

Beautiful rose....I miss her.....sob!

    Bookmark   December 16, 2013 at 10:47PM
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muks29

Two months back i got four cd. Plants. Grafted on a local breed rootstock(indigenous to pakistan)
In just two months that it has been with me it jas surprised me with the numerous flower buds and its vigour.
I bought 85 roses this december. This one attracts a lot of my attention and time. Lets see how it does here in the coming harsh summers.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 9:25AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Bumping this up again.

If you're feeling gloomy from all this bad weather come join us over at the Rose Gallery. We've posted tons of beautiful rose photos to cheer you up!

Here is a link that might be useful: GW Rose Gallery

    Bookmark   February 9, 2014 at 7:50PM
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KarenPA_6b

Many thanks to all who posted the incredibly beautiful photos of their roses. They are really a treat for these dreary winter days. I have enjoyed them so much! The only thing is I can't help adding more than a few to my want list after admiring the photos! Camp is right when she said in the Self discipline thread that a nice photo will send all resolutions out the window.

    Bookmark   February 10, 2014 at 9:23AM
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