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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I'd love to show photos, but that's one that has died three times on me in failing to overwinter in zone 5. I'm giving it one more try in a protected part of my yard, and it looks to be a particularly strong specimen to try. So far all I can say is it isn't very hardy, but if you're in a warmer zone, the color is apparently to die for if you like those burgundies like I do.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 11:39PM
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susan9santabarbara

I've had an own-root Deep Secret rose for about ten years, and it does great for me. I'm in coastal So. Calif., so I have very different conditions from Cynthia in zone 5. It's a very fragrant dark red.

Susan

    Bookmark     June 1, 2014 at 12:12AM
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seil zone 6b MI

OK, does your pot have good drainage and is there a tray on the bottom of it? If so take the tray off! If you've had days of rain it could be getting too much water and doesn't have enough drainage to keep it from collecting in the pot and rotting the roots. Roses hate to have wet, soggy roots. If there aren't enough holes in the pot drill in some more and then put the pot up on a block or something, being careful not to block the holes so that the water will drain out freely.

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 11:03AM
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NOACCEPTANCE772(8a)

Thanks for the replies, awesome guys and girls Unfortunately, none of those conditions apply.
I have been growing roses for a while now,and I can tell that it is the root stock that is faulty :(
The rose is already dead now, so I will try to make them give me a refund for giving me a faulty rose.

Thanks and enjoy your weeks, peeps! ^_^

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:27PM
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upmichiganJim(4)

I kept Oklahoma alive here in zone 5a for about three years using a rose cone stuffed with oak leaves and a mound of dirt over the base. It produced wonderful blooms and got about 3 feet high. After a winter killed it, however, I did not try to replant it. I plant for zone 4 nowadays.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:20AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Large deep red blooms, nice fragrance, good hardiness, does spot, typical tall narrow HT growth habit. It's not my favorite but it's OK.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 8:55PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Wouldn't that be part of what they quarantine hold and inspect for.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 8:48PM
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pembroke(6--Louisville KY)

vasue: I looked at New Zealand on HMF and I 'm sure that's not it. Thanks.
Krista: Bewitched is not it either.
Mom says it is a grandiflora, little to no smell, 4-5 ft. tall, kinda med pink. all suggestions are appreciated. Pembroke

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 6:08PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Can you post some more pictures of all the stages of bloom? That's still a pretty tight bud and it's hard to tell from just that.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 8:13PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Check Burlington Roses and For Love of Roses. I know they both carry a good selection of minis.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:48PM
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roseseek(9)

Wonderful! I'm glad ALmD is finally getting out there. Yes, Burling is a gem! Her propagation talents are as exceptional as her customer service and integrity. Keep your fingers crossed! She had a kitchen garbage bag full of ALmD cuttings hand delivered Wednesday morning.

Remember, this is a climber. A climber which would rather flower than grow. Climbers take their time maturing. Remember also the old saying, "First year they sleep; second year they creep; third year they leap!" No cane will grow before there are sufficient roots under it for support. Kim

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 2:36AM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Kim, I will make an appointment with myself to post photographs of my Annie Laurie McDowell three years from now on the rose gallery and on HMF. It won't feel like a long wait, because Annie's growth will be enjoyable at every stage. Right now she looks like a graceful bonsai tree. Glad to hear so many others will enjoy this rose soon. :)

Ingrid, thanks for the info about your ALMD.

Bonnie

This post was edited by jasminerose4u on Sat, May 31, 14 at 13:31

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 1:24PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

. . . wriiter is about ten years late with the news.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 10:12AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

You may have to find something similar, Australian roses cannot be imported into the US. Can you post a link? Maybe we can recommend something.

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:25AM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Thanks Kippy and Diane! I have a bunch of English roses and love every single one. They are my most favorite! Some do have some gangly canes that have a mind of their own but I'm still smitten by them. I figured I wouldn't be able to add the clustar but thought I'd at least try. Lol!!! I really need to stop following the girl on Instagram and it'd make my life easier! Haha! Thanks y'all for suggesting other roses. Y'all have a great weekend!!! Time to get out and deadhead! Take care, judy

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:51AM
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deervssteve(9)

my cage

Here is a link that might be useful: cage

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 7:28PM
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coachr(5b)

Physical barriers (IE: fencing) may be the best protection, but it can be unsightly. Who wants to entomb their flowers with a fence?
We use Deer Repellent Packs for just the reason you explain in your post. They are easy to apply and the product is encased in a weather resistant pouch providing protection for up to 90 days. You can learn more about them at www.DeerRepellentPacks.com.

Here is a link that might be useful: All Weather Deer Repellent

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 9:38AM
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jacqueline9CA

Hard pruning is EXACTLY what they needed to survive being transplanted - it will not hurt them. What you need to do now is:

1) Keep them well watered - their roots were damaged during the move, and will take some time to grow back.
2) Pinch off any flower buds - they need to put all of their energy into growing roots.
3) DO NOT feed them, or spray them, or fuss with them in any way other than (1) and (2) above.
4) Do not worry if they just "sit there" for a month or two - as I said, they are growing new roots, which you cannot see.
5) After that time period, you should begin to see a bit of new growth - then is the time to feed them - follow the directions, and feed them less than is recommended.

Then they will either bloom, or just grow until next year. When they do bloom, post a picture on here and someone will probably be able to identify them for you.

Good Luck -

Jackie

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 8:51PM
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luvncannin

Thank you for the quick reply. I am going to get them planted today. I am hoping it will work to put them in 40 gallon pots sunk in the ground so I can move them when I move in about 6 months. I am going to write down everything and will come back when the y bloom and the blooms open to post pictures. They are such tiny little buds for such a huge bush. The bushes were at this house unattended for over 20 years so it will be nice to see them survive.
kim

    Bookmark     May 31, 2014 at 7:25AM
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jacqueline9CA

No - it is not possible for "rootstock" blooms to suddenly show up on old canes which previously produced blooms of the scion (desired top rose). Rootstock blooms will always show up on their own canes, whether old or new.

However it is possible that the "old" canes with the single pink blooms were there before, but not yet blooming, so you did not notice them. In that case they could be rootstock.

Please post a picture of the single pink blooms - someone may be able to identify them.

The other thing which might have happened is that your rose sported (mutated) to this new bloom type, but again the canes which are now "old" would have existed in prior seasons, possibly not yet blooming. I believe that sports can happen on new growth off old canes, but to take over half of the bush it seems to me that you would have noticed them before.

Please post a pic of the entire bush - this will be interesting to everyone!

Jackie

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 1:48PM
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Dar(musaboru, Inland Calif.)

There is another possibility called a graft-chimera, but is very unlikely.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 10:40PM
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suebelle_neworleans

Reminds me of "Regensberg"

Is that a possibility?

Suebelle

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 8:03PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

It looks so so so close to Erfurt, but not quite. One distinct feature was a pure white reverse. Looking at the photos on hmf, the backs of the petals on Erfurt have pink on the tips. The mystery doesn't. Also the pinks don't seem the same....so close, so close.

Regensberg looks mostly white. This one is distinctly pink with white.

Thanks for looking and responding, vasue and Suebelle!

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 8:36PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

From your list, Buff Beauty and Golden Celebration have 7 leaves.

I don't know about Graham Thomas.

Gold Medal is 5 leafed, if I remember correctly.

Hope that helps.
Kate

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 3:01PM
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caflowerluver(9b)

Thanks for the reply. It does help. I am playing detective. I receiving cuttings in 11/2012 and now 2 are blooming so trying to figure what rose each came from.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 8:35PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Thanks again for the kind comments. I like that fall photo with the asters too, Carol. It's a nice way to tone down the "in your face" coral of Liverpool Remembers. in general, though, I obviously am going for profuse and bright blooms when I can get them - a riot of color is a great description of my target, MirandaJean, even if I never totally get there.

Kim - yep, tulips in your zone would be way too much like work. It's like the work of planting and digging dahlias or glads or agapanthus or the many bulbs that are happy to the point of being weeds in zones like yours. Isn't it fun that roses have the diversity to span the range of climates from zones 3 to 11 and beyond? In picking a passion, roses are good for the long run in my world.

Cynthia

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 5:30PM
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bluegirl_gw

Just ASTONISHING! Oh my goodness, that is lovely! Any part of the yard--the roses, or one bed--is incredible.

The entire sweep--mind boggling! Wow, I think your whole town ought to give you some sort of award for bringing so much beauty to their world.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 6:33PM
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