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henry_kuska

summersrhythm_z6a are you sure that the lack of blooms is due to midge? The stated period of bloom for that garden is June 15-September 30. Rugosas normally bloom earlier than other types (in my experience).

http://www.niagaraparks.com/niagara-falls-attractions/whats-in-bloom.html

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 8:47PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Yes Henry, I saw the damage in every rose bed, the burnt tips everywhere. I will call them today to let them know.

    Bookmark     June 8, 2015 at 4:22AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Thanks Michaelg. I have new climbers this year too so I will heed your advice. Good to know.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 6:10AM
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rabains

Could some of u experts post pics of ur trained climbers .. That will help me train my young golden shower climber .

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 7:50PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Sugar Moon?

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 6:33PM
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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Wimi has pink stamens.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 6:44PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Vasue, I was just going to post that. I have Pink Don Juan. HMF doesn't say it's a sport, but I would guess it is based on the way the bush looks and the blooms. The picture from Chamblees is not the right color. It is a deep hot pink. It also has a wonderful fragrance.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 5:00AM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Chamblee's link above gives the history as "sport of Don Juan". Nelson's Roses lists their Catherine Nelson as a sport of Don Juan they discovered - first rose on the list - http://nelsonsfloridaroses.com/rose-varieties/pinks/.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 4:07PM
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Ninkasi(6-7 Germany)

Thanks Jasmine, I am wondering if it might work out for my north facing garden. They are not that common around these parts, but if the pictures online are any indication, it certainly looks like a rose worth searching for!

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 2:39PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

I thought it funny that my own root Night Owl was taller than my friend's budded one that she got around the same time. This rose could be rootstock.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 3:16PM
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bethnorcal9

I'd call them and see if they used to carry JACOB'S ROBE. With the slight striping on the edges, I'd bet that's got to be it. I just got it from Northland Rosarium, so maybe at some point I will be able to compare it for you. It's still pretty tiny tho. Might be awhile before I get any bloom on it.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 2:03PM
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nummykitchen(Z5B)

I sent them an e-mail. I'll let you guys know what I hear back. :)

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 3:01PM
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Is this mineral deficiency?Is this mineral deficiency? If so, what? Thank you.
Posted by jasminerose4u, California(9b) June 6, 2015
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cleangeek(Zone 9)

That's normal for older leaves but if newer leaves look like that then it needs more water and less fertilizer, fertilizer(salt) burn can also look like that.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 11:36AM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

That makes sense, given our water restrictions. Thanks.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 12:54PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

As Ascot hits his stride, I'll have to add him to my list, just behind PAOK. Diane

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 11:59AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Oops, forgot Royal Bonica (sport of Bonica). That one is hitting its stride this year, too. A bloom machine. Diane

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 12:01PM
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jacqueline9CA

You are of course correct - I think it depends on soil type, and mostly HUMIDITY. Here, in the summer we are so hot and dry that I have seen roses and other plants not die back, but just DIE completely, if the top growth is not substantially reduced, and lots of water given. We have clay soil also, but the air is so dry (unlike many parts of the country) - I think that is the problem. We do not (even when we are not having a drought) get any rain at all (truly) from May through October, so watering is essential. Thanks for reminding me that the answers to most questions on here totally depend on local conditions!

Jackie

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ellatiarella(SW Mich 6a)

I moved three floribundas in bloom in mid-June a year or two ago, and they did fine. I did not prune them back. I watched for sevl days of cloudy & cooler weather, prepared each new hole before digging up each bush , dug up as large a root ball as possible (we use three spades plus a big piece of plywood as our "transplanting board") (altho generally we get larger root balls when moving perennials than roses), watched daily for several weeks and watered at first sign of any wilting. I think I lost only one leaflet from one bush. Granted these were not particularly robust, having less than a huge amount of foliage to be supported by the root system.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 8:20AM
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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

I haven't grown any climbers yet, but I found the Paul Zimmerman videos on youtube to be helpful. I plan on trying climbers in my new garden.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 10:13PM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Natural or stained fences (like yours) do well with roses in my experience. Painted ones are more of a problem. Leaves can hold a lot of moisture in a damp climate that will have trouble evaporating if right against the wood, and the wood reacts the same. Can lead to mildew on the fence & shorten its life. If you're in a dry climate, likely no worries. But for the health of both, it's more common to leave space between the plant & the fence. Seil's suggestion of a trellis set in front of the fence to allow for air circulations & support the rose is one solution. Here's a thread to illustrate - http://tinyurl.com/p6lw6bp - where you'll see the rose appears to climb the fence but actually does not. There are other methods with wires & spacers directly attached to the fence, loosely looped ties around branches & through the fence gaps or eye hooks screwed to the fence, or posts set in front of the fence with wire or trellis forming a free standing structure to support the rose. Nice fence! Nice rose! I'm sure they can live together happily & bring your vision to life. And I'm with Jackie in thinking your lovely yellow rose is Golden Showers. http://tinyurl.com/nddwe4r

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 11:18PM
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msdorkgirl(11)

Oh so pretty. Thank you!

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 6:23PM
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rosecanadian

Now in retrospect - it balls from the rain way too frequently. But when Betty is on a roll - she's awesome!!!

Carol

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 11:15PM
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amanda

I just posted the question on the antiques forum

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 7:05PM
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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

Mssorkgirl: just so you know, several of my bare roots arrived from wayside with white mold. I think they packaged them on a Friday and they sat for the weekend in the heat before beginning their journey west to me. Plus the heat along the way, it's no surprise they would be moldy I guess. I did call wayside and get a partial refund which I'm happy with. I washed the roses and cut off the moldy parts. I think they will be okay.

Vasue: thanks for the info

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 9:26AM
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msdorkgirl(11)

Argh.

They said on their website they would send to Hawaii via air freight and charged additional 20 dollars to do so; instead they send it via UPS ground and now they're going city to city there like their on tour. Air would take have taken 3 days at the most ... right now it's scheduled to arrive a week and a half from when it was ordered.

Still crossing my fingers that it is worth it.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 6:27PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Thanks Chris for answering my many questions. I have all the ones you mentioned except savannah. Can I ask one more question? Will Lowes be carrying the new ones next year and if not what vendors? Guess that's two questions. Thanks a bunch, Judy

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 8:48AM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Gorgeous!

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:55PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Shrub, climber...they're the same. Austin likes to confuse people. I have several Evelyns, and I treat them as shrubs. Mine have stiff canes, so I can't see them as climbers at all. Diane

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 4:36PM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I grew Evelyn for probably 8 years or so. She would grow tall (about 5--6 feet tall). Blooms were sporadic after the first flush. She was in HOT, direct sun all day and had the reflected sun of a white fence behind her. Finally pulled her when she reverted back to rootstock. Loved her blooms. Scent to die for. Really only got good flushes when the weather was cooler. I miss her but have such a small place, I need roses that rebloom more often.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:51PM
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