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Is this mineral deficiency?Is this mineral deficiency? If so, what? Thank you.
Posted by jasminerose4u, California(9b) June 6, 2015
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cleangeek(Zone 9)

That's normal for older leaves but if newer leaves look like that then it needs more water and less fertilizer, fertilizer(salt) burn can also look like that.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 11:36AM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

That makes sense, given our water restrictions. Thanks.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 12:54PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

As Ascot hits his stride, I'll have to add him to my list, just behind PAOK. Diane

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 11:59AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Oops, forgot Royal Bonica (sport of Bonica). That one is hitting its stride this year, too. A bloom machine. Diane

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 12:01PM
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jacqueline9CA

You are of course correct - I think it depends on soil type, and mostly HUMIDITY. Here, in the summer we are so hot and dry that I have seen roses and other plants not die back, but just DIE completely, if the top growth is not substantially reduced, and lots of water given. We have clay soil also, but the air is so dry (unlike many parts of the country) - I think that is the problem. We do not (even when we are not having a drought) get any rain at all (truly) from May through October, so watering is essential. Thanks for reminding me that the answers to most questions on here totally depend on local conditions!

Jackie

1 Like    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 7:50AM
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ellatiarella(SW Mich 6a)

I moved three floribundas in bloom in mid-June a year or two ago, and they did fine. I did not prune them back. I watched for sevl days of cloudy & cooler weather, prepared each new hole before digging up each bush , dug up as large a root ball as possible (we use three spades plus a big piece of plywood as our "transplanting board") (altho generally we get larger root balls when moving perennials than roses), watched daily for several weeks and watered at first sign of any wilting. I think I lost only one leaflet from one bush. Granted these were not particularly robust, having less than a huge amount of foliage to be supported by the root system.

    Bookmark     June 7, 2015 at 8:20AM
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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

I haven't grown any climbers yet, but I found the Paul Zimmerman videos on youtube to be helpful. I plan on trying climbers in my new garden.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 10:13PM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Natural or stained fences (like yours) do well with roses in my experience. Painted ones are more of a problem. Leaves can hold a lot of moisture in a damp climate that will have trouble evaporating if right against the wood, and the wood reacts the same. Can lead to mildew on the fence & shorten its life. If you're in a dry climate, likely no worries. But for the health of both, it's more common to leave space between the plant & the fence. Seil's suggestion of a trellis set in front of the fence to allow for air circulations & support the rose is one solution. Here's a thread to illustrate - http://tinyurl.com/p6lw6bp - where you'll see the rose appears to climb the fence but actually does not. There are other methods with wires & spacers directly attached to the fence, loosely looped ties around branches & through the fence gaps or eye hooks screwed to the fence, or posts set in front of the fence with wire or trellis forming a free standing structure to support the rose. Nice fence! Nice rose! I'm sure they can live together happily & bring your vision to life. And I'm with Jackie in thinking your lovely yellow rose is Golden Showers. http://tinyurl.com/nddwe4r

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 11:18PM
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msdorkgirl(11)

Oh so pretty. Thank you!

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 6:23PM
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rosecanadian

Now in retrospect - it balls from the rain way too frequently. But when Betty is on a roll - she's awesome!!!

Carol

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 11:15PM
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amanda

I just posted the question on the antiques forum

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 7:05PM
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reesepbuttercup 7a- Utah

Mssorkgirl: just so you know, several of my bare roots arrived from wayside with white mold. I think they packaged them on a Friday and they sat for the weekend in the heat before beginning their journey west to me. Plus the heat along the way, it's no surprise they would be moldy I guess. I did call wayside and get a partial refund which I'm happy with. I washed the roses and cut off the moldy parts. I think they will be okay.

Vasue: thanks for the info

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 9:26AM
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msdorkgirl(11)

Argh.

They said on their website they would send to Hawaii via air freight and charged additional 20 dollars to do so; instead they send it via UPS ground and now they're going city to city there like their on tour. Air would take have taken 3 days at the most ... right now it's scheduled to arrive a week and a half from when it was ordered.

Still crossing my fingers that it is worth it.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 6:27PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Thanks Chris for answering my many questions. I have all the ones you mentioned except savannah. Can I ask one more question? Will Lowes be carrying the new ones next year and if not what vendors? Guess that's two questions. Thanks a bunch, Judy

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 8:48AM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Gorgeous!

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:55PM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Shrub, climber...they're the same. Austin likes to confuse people. I have several Evelyns, and I treat them as shrubs. Mine have stiff canes, so I can't see them as climbers at all. Diane

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 4:36PM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I grew Evelyn for probably 8 years or so. She would grow tall (about 5--6 feet tall). Blooms were sporadic after the first flush. She was in HOT, direct sun all day and had the reflected sun of a white fence behind her. Finally pulled her when she reverted back to rootstock. Loved her blooms. Scent to die for. Really only got good flushes when the weather was cooler. I miss her but have such a small place, I need roses that rebloom more often.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:51PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

I can't see c;early, but if two leaflets are stuck together with webbing, there is a larva inside the leaf sandwich that feeds on rose leaves. It would likely be a Rose Leaf Tier. Squish 'im.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 11:12AM
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seil zone 6b MI

It's hard to tell from that photo, What color is your rose? White or pale pink or yellow?

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:39PM
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bonny46(6)
In my earlier post I meant to say I didn't know WHY I wasn't getting blooms. I was all too aware of the lack of flowers!!!
    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 1:51PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You might just have what are called blind shoots. That's when the terminal leaf set just ends and doesn't grow a bloom. Just snip the tips back from the end leaf set down to the next one and wait and see if the new growth produces a bloom.

2 Likes    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:27PM Thanked by rabains
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summersrhythm_z6a

Go ahead give it a try. :-)

    Bookmark     June 4, 2015 at 8:04PM
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eviemp

I returned two of them a couple years ago. I did get the refund but I had to remind them about it once, too.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 12:32PM
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Donna R zone 6a

Dr. Huey got dug up and discarded this evening. I felt guilty doing it, since it is a living thing. But I don't have room in my small rose garden for roses like this. Thanks for everyone's answers.

    Bookmark     June 5, 2015 at 5:30PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Don't feel guilty, Donna, he was an interloper! But I know how you feel. I do the same thing when I shovel prune anything, even the Dr., lol! With my bad winters I figure anything that can survive deserves a chance. I'm getting better about it but I still look for good homes for my living cast offs.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 7:34AM
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

I would cut off the dark tips. Cut them all back a little - to a bud on the outside if you can.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 5:27AM
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seil zone 6b MI

The dark tips are just a little bit of die back from pruning and storage. If you look carefully you'll usually see that it has died back to the top bud eye on the cane. The rose can't grow from anything above that top bud eye so it stops feeding it and it dies off. Just snip it back to about a 1/4 inch above the bud eye and it should be fine.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 7:31AM
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AJ (6A)

They are from Brecks. So if I bury the graft there will be very little plant out of the soil. Is that normal?

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 6:45AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, that's grafted. Don't worry, just plant them a little deep to protect the graft from winter. They will still sprout and grow. Some people actually mound up soil around the canes to start with to keep them moist. The plants still sprout through the soil.

    Bookmark     June 6, 2015 at 7:25AM
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