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That is freaky. I have bad borers, but they bore into harder canes, when they are more like wood. Mine go bonkers and bore for feet :(
Spinosad may be worth a shot, but I don't know what kind of borer that is. Definitely cut out and dispose of any canes like that, and I'd try several rounds of spinosad (just a guess at what might help, keep in mind). Make sure to spray it late in the day when the bees are in for the night, though. It's toxic to them until it dries.
I hope someone can ID what exactly is going on, though!
Thanks Seil, I tried to mound the soil up around it and just watering it in partially washed the mounded soil away from it already. [g] OK, 2-4 inches deep. It's raining right now and will be through most of Saturday, so Sunday or Monday will work.
Honestly, if I dig a 2 ft by 2ft hole my problem is usually planting the rose too deep. The risk is that it will die back to the ground in winter. I just moved 39 roses and I just watered them every day for two weeks. They stopped growing for about a week, but now they seem fine. If it were me I'd just replant it deeper now rather than risk it. I don't think the shock would be that bad.
Thanks, Seil, but the one cane isn't looking that good. I think the pith is dry. :(
I'd have left the dead leaves on the plant if I'd known they would shade the canes. I feel like an even bigger idiot.
File this under "My Most Stupid Gardening Mistakes."
I think I'll dig the poor thing up and get another rose. And treat it well.
Sylvia
Do not feel like an idiot! We have all done stuff like that! Chalk it up to experience. I , also don't think you have lost that rose. Just prune back the tops to good wood and give it good, semi-shaded, location. Dappled! And don't worry so much. I will bet it will come back. Keeping the good thoughts for you! Maybe turn a lawn chair over and use that as a screen from the hot sun!
I think the advice is spot-on, so I don't have anything to add there. However, I'm also in NJ, and I wanted to share in your excitement about the impending first-flush -- I'm also seeing buds everywhere! There's going to be something spectacular going on in the next week.
:-)
~Christopher
A Beauty! Another fan of Pearly Gates, and America from which it sported. Both are strongly & deliciously scented, abundant with bloom nearly continuously, hardy & healthy grown organically in this humid & wet central VA garden. Find their colors charming together or alone, mirror images of each other. Both glimmer with an inner light. Give it a bit more time & consider training those laterals horizontally along the fence slats.
Here is a link that might be useful: Pearly Gates
So great to hear more stories about this lovely rose from everyone! I think Pearly Gates will make a good cutting flower too as the stems are fairly long. Strangely, mine doesn't have much scent, but it's been very hot and dry here in CA, so maybe that affects it. I would love to train it laterally along the fence, but what the picture doesn't show is that there are roses on both sides. I guess I got greedy trying to fill up all available space. Hopefully it will still bloom if it's trained vertically!
Mikeber - sorry to hear yours got shovel pruned. :(
The Bayer all in one is not a great product. You have minimal blackspot protection and a lot of insecticide and chemical fertilizer. As others have said, aphids do not require insecticide. Just wipe them off or blast with the hose.
For blackspot, see if you can find the Bayer Disease Control. That is mixed with water and sprayed. It is very effective.
The only time I use the All in one is if there is a really bad infestation on a plant like lacebugs on an azalea. It's really overkill for aphids.
I try not to use chemicals if I can because I don't like them for a number of reasons but when I get a really bad case of black spot through out the garden late in the season I will use it. I need my roses to go into winter healthy so they'll survive. I use the Bayer disease control only and it works very well. I never get multi products because they seem like a waste to me. I have black spot not insects so why spray for bugs I don't have? Besides you're probably killing off beneficial insects that could cause you to have a worse problem later. And I fertilize regularly so why add more that's not needed? Use the correct product for what ever the problem is and don't add a bunch of stuff you don't really need. Works for me!
Thank you, but there are no leaves anyhow. I just got those two roses packed in plastic and bareroot. The mildew is on canes, bud union and even on roots. I cut whatever I could and placed them in water to soak. It would be good to kill the virus somehow.
Please help!
Soak them in a diluted bleach solution for a bit and then pot them up and isolate them from your other roses until it clears up. However, the fungus that causes mildew is already present in your garden and only needs the right weather conditions to grow and show up on your roses. You really can't prevent it from showing up if the conditions are right for it.
If the rose bloomed repeatedly in a previous season, it must have been a grafted rose that died back (probably from cold) to below the graft, leaving only the rootstock alive. The rootstock then made shoots and leaves. These did not bloom because roses of this type only bloom in June on canes that survived the previous winter. If any canes survived the past winter, it will bloom next month, but not like your original rose. The original rose is lost forever,
If you replace the rose, be sure to plant the new one with the graft well below the soil surface. This might get it through the winter.
Yes, it sounds like you're left with just the root stock coming up. If you let it bloom and it's red it's Dr. Huey. If it's white it's Multiflora most likely. Or you can just dig it up and get something you like!