22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

Oooh! Or more frugally, the leftover iris leaves.

For mulch, buy a bag from HD or Wal-Mart (or such place) of pine-bark mulch--or other type if you want a different color. Just costs a couple dollars.

Kate

Ooooh!!! That is electric!!!
Looks like a great shrub with lots of flowers. I can see why you keep it!
Carol

Thank you ladies. Seil - I think that would be a good name for it too! Carol - it is an unusual rose, sometimes the blooms are quite lovely, in the fall especially.



I just bought this little 'greenhouse' of peat pelletts. I am going to use it to start some cuttings. It's small, so I will have to cut the canes shorter than usual. But worth a shot.

Thanks a lot Buford, for the detailed information. I followed your instruction and let's see what will happen.
There is an interesting finding today, when I was transferring one of my bare root roses, I found one cane which is in "check" shape got new root on the lowest part. Because I buried the rose too deep, the lowest part of the cane and bud joint were buried inside the soil. I guess if I separate the cane from the plant, I will get a new rose. This cane is a new sprout that started after I planted the whole thing in a pot. Therefore, I thought a new way to propagate rose. Burying part of a sprout into the soil without cutting it off and let it root underneath. This way, there is no need for covers and peat pellets.

If you like damask scent arizsun, you might like to try something I bought at Target, Botanic's Rosewater Toning Spritz, 100% Organic. It was developed with plant extracts from Kew Royal Botanic Gardens. It smells heavenly!!! Very strong damask fragrance. Ingredients: Aqua (water), Alcohol denat, Glycerin, Rosa damascena flower oil, Citronellol.

I grow both Rose de Rescht and Pickering Four Seasons. Both have wonderful scent, but both are also smallish plants and don't climb. RdR has the better rebloom.

I have a magnificent damask with a powerful fragrance called York and Lancaster which I've grown for over 20 years in partial shade (bottom of plant in full shade, top of plant in full sun most of the day). It is now up on my roof but would only be able to climb with lots of support (wants to be floppy). However there is zero rebloom.

You might want to try Portland from Glendora. Wonderful, strong scent. This rose has fairly good rebloom and is quite willing to climb. If you want a headstart in getting it to a large size, I would suggest buying from Antique Rose Emporium in Texas. The shipping can be expensive but that is because they send out such big plants. One of my favorite vendors.

Comtesse O'Gorman is a hybrid perpetual that has a heavy, dreamy scent and climbing tendencies. I don't think it is in commerce at present unfortunately. It is red though, not pink.

Cl. Chrysler Imperial is another worth considering, if you can find it. It's a climbing hybrid tea with powerful fragrance and a liking for heat. Very good rebloom. I had 2 that perished in a wildfire in 2003. I have been unable to find replacements. :(

Another suggestion that you can look up on HelpMeFind is Yolande d'Aragon (I've seen it grow much taller than HMF indicates),

Or check out the damask/portland roses at Greenmantle Nursery and give Marissa a call there. She is very knowledgeable.

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Damask and Portland Roses at Greenmantle

I forgot one, Stanwell Perpetual, I guess because I think of it more of as a spinosissima since it has the tiny leaves typical of the class. Flowers are all damask in looks and perfume to me. HMF says it is only moderately fragrant. Not in my garden. Here, the fragrance is quite strong. I have 2 plants of it. One is over 5 feet tall at around 3 years old and showing signs now of getting much bigger. This one is from Heirloom Roses in Oregon and has been blooming almost continuously since January. Blooms are a pale pink that fades to white in intense sun. I have another one of the same age from Rogue Valley Roses. This one is only maybe one foot tall and rarely blooms. A dud.

Melissa

Here is a link that might be useful: Stanwell Perpetual on HMF

The thing you have to remember is that a lot of the things we've traditionally been taught for decades about growing roses are changing as new technology and research has developed. Like a lot of aspects of our lives times change with new knowledge. So much scientific research has been done now on exactly how the plants grow and react to pathogens that many of the old ways are now being updated. But some people are quicker to accept new things than others so the old methods persist in being put out there. It doesn't mean that one way is all wrong or another is all right. It just means there is more than one way to do any of it. Like I said before, experiment and do what works best for you and your roses.

Water on the foliage will cause blackspot to germinate if it stays wet for around 8 hours. So don't wet the foliage in the evenings.

Hosing down the foliage does help control mildew, but mildew is not usually a problem in the East except for maritime New England. I don't do it because it wastes water.

Well, good :) That makes me feel better.

I am glad you sprayed the fungicide..I have never had it hurt my roses

I would leave the trellis where it is (doesn't look too close to me) and I'd put a small stake (like a bamboo one, you can find them at Home Depot,etc) next to the rose, leaning to the trellis. Then I'd tie the cane on that and train it towards the trellis. When it finally reaches the trellis, you can take out the stake.

I have trellis' everywhere in my yard and do this kind of thing all the time.

Good luck!

Thanks :)

Three years. I think that might just be what to expect from any rose.
Three years for 5g pots to spread their roots and amaze. Three years for bareroots to build their roots and amaze. Three years for bands to build their roots and frame work to amaze.

The hard part is waiting those three years.

My Tropicanas have looked especially lovely this spring.

My Tropicana took a hard hit this winter, but is bouncing back. Only problem I have is powdery mildew every so often.

TG has been in my garden for over 6 years, it rarely bloom, I spent so much $$$ fertilizing to encourage bloom but instead it grow so large and healthy but never give an abundant flowers. Anyone please advice.

My Teasing Georgia took a hit this winter with some damage but is filling out again. In most years she grows 6' tall and about 5' wide here, self-supporting. I would say that now she's mature she repeat blooms very well.

Marylou, if yours is growing large but not blooming, maybe you are overfeeding it too much nitrogen? I give mine some Rosetone in early spring which is a balanced organic fertilizer, but that's the only fertilizing I usually do. And it repeat blooms wells after a good first flush.

Seil,

What size pot do you recommend for roses?

Graham Thomas in a pot for five years, that's impressive!

Lynn

Thanks Lynn! The pot GT was in was about 24 inches across and maybe 20 inches deep and shaped more like a cauldron than a flower pot. So it was just as wide at the bottom as the top. Since then I've gotten some even larger ones. I shop for the biggest pots I can find. It helps cut down on how often I have to root prune but the bigger they are the more soil around them for protection in the winter too. The other thing is the wind. I'm on the lake and there are always good stiff breezes blowing. I've had problems with some of the taller ones tipping in the wind if the pot isn't large enough and heavy enough to hold them. All that vertical cane and leaves acts just like a sail in the wind and blows them over. That's also why I like the wider bottomed pots best. They're less tippy.