22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

I would leave the trellis where it is (doesn't look too close to me) and I'd put a small stake (like a bamboo one, you can find them at Home Depot,etc) next to the rose, leaning to the trellis. Then I'd tie the cane on that and train it towards the trellis. When it finally reaches the trellis, you can take out the stake.

I have trellis' everywhere in my yard and do this kind of thing all the time.

Good luck!

Thanks :)

Three years. I think that might just be what to expect from any rose.
Three years for 5g pots to spread their roots and amaze. Three years for bareroots to build their roots and amaze. Three years for bands to build their roots and frame work to amaze.

The hard part is waiting those three years.

My Tropicanas have looked especially lovely this spring.

My Tropicana took a hard hit this winter, but is bouncing back. Only problem I have is powdery mildew every so often.

TG has been in my garden for over 6 years, it rarely bloom, I spent so much $$$ fertilizing to encourage bloom but instead it grow so large and healthy but never give an abundant flowers. Anyone please advice.

My Teasing Georgia took a hit this winter with some damage but is filling out again. In most years she grows 6' tall and about 5' wide here, self-supporting. I would say that now she's mature she repeat blooms very well.

Marylou, if yours is growing large but not blooming, maybe you are overfeeding it too much nitrogen? I give mine some Rosetone in early spring which is a balanced organic fertilizer, but that's the only fertilizing I usually do. And it repeat blooms wells after a good first flush.

Seil,

What size pot do you recommend for roses?

Graham Thomas in a pot for five years, that's impressive!

Lynn

Thanks Lynn! The pot GT was in was about 24 inches across and maybe 20 inches deep and shaped more like a cauldron than a flower pot. So it was just as wide at the bottom as the top. Since then I've gotten some even larger ones. I shop for the biggest pots I can find. It helps cut down on how often I have to root prune but the bigger they are the more soil around them for protection in the winter too. The other thing is the wind. I'm on the lake and there are always good stiff breezes blowing. I've had problems with some of the taller ones tipping in the wind if the pot isn't large enough and heavy enough to hold them. All that vertical cane and leaves acts just like a sail in the wind and blows them over. That's also why I like the wider bottomed pots best. They're less tippy.

I agree that what you have is the same rose you rooted and planted. To say that a rose is "rootstock" only makes sense if it is coming up from the roots of a grafted rose.

Otherwise, it is just a plant of whatever rose it is. Whether or not that rose has been used for rootstock at some time is irrelevant. I presume you rooted the climbing rose because you liked it. If it has 7 leaflets, that does NOT mean that it is "rootstock", it just means that it is a rose which has 7 leaflets, most of which are old roses.

Has it bloomed since you planted it? When you rooted it, did the cutting you rooted have a bloom on it that you liked? If you rooted a cutting that did not have a bloom on it, it is theoretically possible that you rooted a rose that was not the rose you wanted. If it did have a bloom on it that you liked, that is the rose you got.

Let it bloom, and any possible confusion will be resolved.
Whatever it is, it is growing on its own roots now, so what you see is what it is. It will bloom the same as it has ever bloomed since you planted it. Please post a picture on here, and someone will probably be able to identify it for you.

Here is a picture of a rose that WAS originally rootstock on a modern rose. I had dug up the modern rose, because I didn't like it. Up came this one, to my delight. It has 7 leaflets. It is one of my most favorite roses - gorgeous, very fragrant, and a climber.

Jackie

Interesting, Jacqueline. Do you think your pink rose is De La Grifferaie? It is used as rootstock.

Here is a link that might be useful: De La Grifferaie

I get mine on Amazon and have had uniformly good experiences with them. They usually come with directions on how to release them, which is really simple. They're super fun to watch, and if you're lucky they'll lay eggs and you get another round of them later.

Funny note - this year's batch was super, super horny. There will be a LOT of babies this year. :) I have been cracking jokes about it for days.

I totally agree with everyone about the ladybugs. Last year, all of my poor roses were covered with aphids and I did not want to spray insecticide. So, I purchased 5,000 ladybugs from ebay and they went to war for me.

Now, one year later, I'm not seeing any aphids so I'm hoping the ladybugs are still around, even though I don't see them either.

And yes, I've seen quite a few ladybugs doing the deed right out in public.... they have no discretion..

Jessica:
I love your rich wall color. It really shows off your beautiful roses. Those Ebb Tide buds are neat. I hope you post an update when the they open. The anticipation is part of the fun, isn't it?

Just a phone pic which does them no justice, but - my Julio Iglesias.

I live in NJ, like you, but along the coast. Fragrant Cloud is one rose I wouldn't be without. The flowers are just gorgeous, and the bush is strong and grows well. Except it does get blackspot here, so I have to spray regularly. If it does defoliate badly due to my lack of diligence it comes back fairly well in the fall. Perfume Delight, though pretty, is not a "must have" for me. My other "must have" that I have to baby through blackspot is Just Joey. I'll do what I can to keep it going in my garden.

Thanks everyone.
Doesn't sound like either is great.
Didn't buy either, bought Francis Meilland instead!

Mine is pretty white here. Set next to ivory 'French Lace' there is a considerable difference. The one that is really icy snow white is Aimee Vibert, but it is only a little whiter than Iceberg. It seems like 'Madame Hardy' is another really icy white, but it blooms so rarely here I haven't seen it recently and can't remember for sure. 'Snowbird' is creamy ivory as is 'Kaiserin Auguste Viktoria'. 'Fabulous' is pretty white. 'Fair Bianca' is very white but it's such a problem-plagued cultivar...'Glamis Castle' is very white also, whiter than Iceberg. 'Bolero' will often have a touch of pink.

Last month during the spring flush I gathered one of every single white or ivory rose in the garden and arrayed them all and took a photo of the range of whites. Then I did some gardening and forgot all about everything else and the flowers dried up. The next day when I went to look at the photos I realized the stupid memory card wasn't in the camera when I took the pictures. Boy was I mad. Next flush...maybe I'll get a photo.

Mine are paper white. The whites of your eyes white. Clean icy white. That's why I love them. Hopefully they'll be back !

I deeply sympathise with you. Had the same problem last fall when the drought started, and I found the yellow sticky traps could catch a lot of them, not all but a lot, you could give that a try. If you find out a better way to combat these little things please post it here.

An excellent control for thrips is Spinosad. You can buy the concentrated form from Rosemania as Conserve or get a more dilute product at your local garden shop. It's about as effective as you can get.